View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Maybe I'm biased but I'm guessing there are more people confused about homosexuality than the other way around. I can't imagine someone with a dick in their mouth being confused. Its not like it just fell in there.
    Well... To be fair here, it's not like there aren't more than a few straight out deviants in the world as well.

    As far as I'm aware, there's no "orientation" towards having sex with animals. It doesn't stop some people from engaging in exactly that either way regardless.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree with that but that does not negate the fact that our consciousness over rides any instinctual aspect of the genes want to perpetuate...
    So, do you think it is NOT instinctual for you to desire woman and the normal way for a man to be? Do you think homosexual is the way humans were intended to be? If not, then it is not normal nor is it natural. It is something else. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Which we accomplish by reproducing.

    This isn't exactly rocket science here. If there aren't any offspring. There isn't a species to begin with.
    As I have pointed out countless times, reproduction is not always beneficial to survival. If there aren't enough resources to sustain a larger population, and the resources are consumed before they can be replenished, the entire population will die. Overpopulation is a biological term that applies to all animals. Refer to my previous post.

    Then homosexuality would increase in proportion to population size. It doesn't.

    It was a statistical anomaly when our numbers were small. It is still an anomaly today.
    Not relevant to my main point whatsoever, which is the following: Homosexuality occurs in nature and is therefore natural. The argument that reproduction is always a biological imperative is false, for in many cases reproduction may cause more harm than not producing.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Maybe I'm biased but I'm guessing there are more people confused about homosexuality than the other way around. I can't imagine someone with a dick in their mouth being confused. Its not like it just fell in there.
    Mentally confused. Abused or molested since childhood thus altering their sense of self or worth, changing their ideas of gender identity. That is what she means and not, "gee, how did this dick end up in my mouth"
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No. It was not the norm. That is the misrepresentation of Hollywood. Most men, including most cowboys and men out west, did not carry a gun. Most people, in fact, in the history of the USA, did not carry guns.
    Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. MOST men hunted and needed to protect themselves and their property, not only against animals but also against other predatory humans.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Maybe I'm biased but I'm guessing there are more people confused about homosexuality than the other way around. I can't imagine someone with a dick in their mouth being confused. Its not like it just fell in there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Mentally confused. Abused or molested since childhood thus altering their sense of self or worth, changing their ideas of gender identity. That is what she means and not, "gee, how did this dick end up in my mouth"
    Yes, this is what I mean. There could be other reasons for the confusion too though.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree with that but that does not negate the fact that our consciousness over rides any instinctual aspect of the genes want to perpetuate...
    Consciousness can only direct what nature provided for us in the first place.

    Frankly, even then, it's not like our actions are completely our own anyway. Our instincts push us towards certain behaviors and inclinations without our knowledge or consent.

    Sexuality is simply one example of exactly that. We have sex because our bodies are trying to reproduce, regardless of whether we are aware of it or not.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So, do you think it is NOT instinctual for you to desire woman and the normal way for a man to be? Do you think homosexual is the way humans were intended to be? If not, then it is not normal nor is it natural. It is something else. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
    Definition of natural:
    "existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

    Homosexuality exists in nature among numerous species and is not caused by humankind. Therefore it is natural. Simple as that.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So, do you think it is NOT instinctual for you to desire woman and the normal way for a man to be? Do you think homosexual is the way humans were intended to be? If not, then it is not normal nor is it natural. It is something else.
    Homosexuality is natural but not normal. Normal implies the majority.

    ... and of course it is instinctual that I find hot babes desirable.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that!
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Definition of natural:
    "existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

    Homosexuality exists in nature among numerous species and is not caused by humankind. Therefore it is natural. Simple as that.
    Okay, I can agree with that. It is natural because it is not (as far as we know) caused by any external factors.

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