View Poll Results: Is homosexuality "normak" and "natural"?

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  • Homosexuality is normal

    68 47.22%
  • Homosexuality is not normal

    46 31.94%
  • Homosexuality is natural

    92 63.89%
  • Homosexuality is not natural

    19 13.19%
  • Other/unsure

    12 8.33%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    I meant to hit natural and not natural as there are those that are naturally gay and those that are gay for psychological reasons... those these are less in numbers.

    I really wanted an option that said, "Who cares, as long as they are nice and caring people that benefit society?"
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    The tendency to be sexually attracted to another sex is both normal and natural. Just as you don't "choose" to be straight, you don't "choose" to be gay. Homosexuality has even been observed in nature indicating that it's not "just some weird human trend."
    But the animals that practice it observed it and learned it from humans, making it not natural nor normal.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Call" whatever you want. It's not like it's going to change anything.
    But you are still full of ****.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    But you are still full of ****.
    I actually don't know why anybody would even care enough to debate it, much less be against it.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I actually don't know why anybody would even care enough to debate it, much less be against it.
    I agree, to care about who somebody else is attracted to is really strange.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    With the exception of the "twink" phenomena (which could be passed off as more masculine gay men looking for something as close as possible to a woman without having to actually find one), gay men do tend to go after classic signs of reproductive "virility" just as straight women are wont do, under most circumstances. This would seem to imply that reproductive instincts, if not necessarily function are still at play. They have simply been misdirected.
    I don't know what makes people attracted to certain individuals or body types, but thinking of how some insist they only like certain races for example, social conditioning could be a factor. I don't know that it's as determined at birth as attraction to gender.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, that depends on how one defines "harm" in the first place. Being different for no reason and having to go out of one's way to adapt can be viewed as being "harmful" in a fashion, though not everyone is inclined to accept that argument.
    Depends what you compare it to. Your list (dwarfism, autism) and i could add plenty others like blind or deaf, might contribute to human diversity like i argued, but those traits are what i'd call inherently harmful. They always make life more difficult and how the rest of us respond to them - no matter how kind or accepting - doesn't change that. We can work to make it less difficult, but not so it's 100% the same as being free of that condition.

    From experience i can tell you being homosexual isn't like that. Whatever difficulty comes from society not accepting it, "for no reason" i would argue - thus that is what needs to change. In a hateful environment as a minor, it was difficult but again the harm comes from others being haters. In accepting environment, it's really no more difficult. The difference between the two was vast and immediately obvious. Homophobia is what needs to be cured.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Homosexuality is also a biological and statistical anomaly with no immediately useful function, where the other attributes you listed are not.
    What is the useful function to being blue eyed? It is actually statistically abnormal. How about the elderly? They are abnormal and lack function once they reach a certain point. Guess we better off them all huh

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Sorry, but I really don't see any objective value in such a state of affairs.
    If you only cared for 'objective value' like a socialist or something, that would be one thing. I doubt that all your beliefs align with what's "best" for the species as a whole. Else you'd favor aborting down syndrome fetus, sterilizing drug addict or simply poor mothers, and so on. There is a long list of human failures and inconveniences that are largely preventable and less harmful than homosexuality.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But the animals that practice it observed it and learned it from humans, making it not natural nor normal.
    Are you serious lol? Even flies have been exhibited same sex behavior

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But the animals that practice it observed it and learned it from humans, making it not natural nor normal.
    That is about the most ignorant retort I have ever gotten on this subject. I don't suppose you have some evidence to back up this claim?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But the animals that practice it observed it and learned it from humans, making it not natural nor normal.
    Please tell me that you meant this as a joke or as sarcasm.....without the emoticon or something similar its hard to tell....
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    Re: Is Homosexuality "Normal" and "Natural"?

    Ludicrous , IMO, for a man to think that homosexuality is either "normal" or natural . However, being "un-natural" does NOT mean that its a sin or evil .. or even that the individual should "seek help" or under-go any change .. That is up to him, NOT you, NOT I ... nor society ..

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