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Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

Does it make sense for Romney t run again?

  • Absoutely. He's by far the best shot the RNC has.

    Votes: 9 9.4%

  • He might be good if he can shake the 47% remark he made.

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • I really don't care who the RNC puts up at this point

    Votes: 10 10.4%

  • The guy is DOA. Find some new blood.

    Votes: 46 47.9%

  • History suggests that he should not run again.

    Votes: 30 31.3%
  • Total voters
    96
  • Poll closed .
upsideguy said:
Please don't trip over your hyperbole. He was a one term governor of a medium-sized state; hardly the most qualified to run in your lifetime. Yes, he had an Ivy league JD and MBA, but we have had plenty of those. Obama is an lvy League JD.

Really, nothing worse then tripping over bad hyperbole; especially when you land and splatter it all over your face. Its just not very becoming.
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Maybe you should read his about his past and compare it with that of Barrack Obama. Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
RDS said:
Give him a chance but make sure he don't fly the Cayman Islands flag when his yacht is moored in USA.
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You mean docked next to John Kerry's yacht?
 
The problem with Romney that he just couldn't shake is that no one knew where he stood on almost any issue. He didn't get the "etch a sketch" name for no reason. The man flip flopped so much that he made Kerry look like a pillar of stability.
 
Grant said:
Is that what you got out of it? Persecuted republicans?? You always seem to prove my point!
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That's what I got out of your complaining.

There's plenty of differences with Romney based on policy. Your notion that it's "all personal attacks" is weapons-grade bull****.

However, the way Romney ran his campaign, if you disagreed with him on a policy point, all you had to do is wait a few days and he'd change it to something you agreed with.
 
VanceMack said:
You mean docked next to John Kerry's yacht?
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Probably.

Of course maybe if we knew what if anything he stands for..that might help. however he spent the whole primary season trying to convince people that he wasn't a moderate, then tried to look like one when he needed to, but not too moderate...

His campaign reminded me a,lot of Kerry's now that I think about it.
 
Kobie said:
That's what I got out of your complaining.

There's plenty of differences with Romney based on policy. Your notion that it's "all personal attacks" is weapons-grade bull****.

However, the way Romney ran his campaign, if you disagreed with him on a policy point, all you had to do is wait a few days and he'd change it to something you agreed with.
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You're a gift that just keeps on giving.
 
rocket88 said:
Probably.

Of course maybe if we knew what if anything he stands for..that might help. however he spent the whole primary season trying to convince people that he wasn't a moderate, then tried to look like one when he needed to, but not too moderate...

His campaign reminded me a,lot of Kerry's now that I think about it.
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It absolutely did. In 2004, John Kerry ran for President with the general message of "I'm not George W. Bush" and lost. Romney did the same thing in regards to Obama in 2012.
 
rocket88 said:
Probably.

Of course maybe if we knew what if anything he stands for..that might help. however he spent the whole primary season trying to convince people that he wasn't a moderate, then tried to look like one when he needed to, but not too moderate...

His campaign reminded me a,lot of Kerry's now that I think about it.
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How would you define 'moderate', and on which policies?
 
rocket88 said:
Probably.

Of course maybe if we knew what if anything he stands for..that might help. however he spent the whole primary season trying to convince people that he wasn't a moderate, then tried to look like one when he needed to, but not too moderate...

His campaign reminded me a,lot of Kerry's now that I think about it.
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Oh...I think that unlike Kerry (I have a plan thats going to solve everything. Its a great plan. No, you cant see the plan, but trust...its a great plan) we actually DID see Romneys positions stated. The question is, can anyone trust or believe them and what will they be tomorrow.

There HAVE to be better candidates than Romney and Clinton. Frankly...I dont see Romney winning a primary. Christie, Jihndal, who knows who else.

Im not sure if I see Hillary winning the dem ticket with the way things are going. I wouldnt be surprised at Warren being named Obamas successor. Their problem will be that she is white. They need a black or Hispanic candidate as the Veep nominee.

First we have to slog our way through the 2014 election. WOuld it be possible to put the 2016 talk off until say...October...of 2016?
 
VanceMack said:
Im not sure if I see Hillary winning the dem ticket with the way things are going. I wouldnt be surprised at Warren being named Obamas successor. Their problem will be that she is white. They need a black or Hispanic candidate as the Veep nominee.
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Why is that a problem?
 
disneydude said:
The problem with Romney that he just couldn't shake is that no one knew where he stood on almost any issue. He didn't get the "etch a sketch" name for no reason. The man flip flopped so much that he made Kerry look like a pillar of stability.
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That's a problem all politicians share. Why you decided to pin that nonsense on just Romney is beyond me.
 
Kobie said:
Why is that a problem?
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That she is white is problematic for the democrats because a white candidate (and especially an all white ticket) wont inspire minority turnout. It is highly unlikely after 8 years of Obama and 8 years of an ever increasing worsening of problems in the black and Hispanic community that they will be inspired to vote, much less for a white candidate. Democrats need a minority candidate, and pretty much ANY minority candidate will do. I still think Corey Booker will be the veep niominee.
 
VanceMack said:
That she is white is problematic for the democrats because a white candidate (and especially an all white ticket) wont inspire minority turnout. It is highly unlikely after 8 years of Obama and 8 years of an ever increasing worsening of problems in the black and Hispanic community that they will be inspired to vote, much less for a white candidate. Democrats need a minority candidate, and pretty much ANY minority candidate will do. I still think Corey Booker will be the veep niominee.
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Democrats have done just fine without minority candidates for quite some time. They may run one, but I don't honestly think you can say they need one to win.
 
Kobie said:
Democrats have done just fine without minority candidates for quite some time. They may run one, but I don't honestly think you can say they need one to win.
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I disagree...but thats just like, an opinion, man.
 
VanceMack said:
I disagree...but thats just like, an opinion, man.
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In 2004 and 2000, the Democrats very nearly won running the whitest people imaginable. And they did win the two prior presidential elections with white guys. I don't know where the idea has come from that Democrats can only win if they run a minority.
 
Kobie said:
In 2004 and 2000, the Democrats very nearly won running the whitest people imaginable. And they did win the two prior presidential elections with white guys. I don't know where the idea has come from that Democrats can only win if they run a minority.
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In 2000 they lost even after having a successful presidency with Bill Clintons 8 years. In 2004, they lost to a man that had been vilified by the media, Hollywood, and democrats. Democrats need active minority voters and they got it by running a black man (no one gave a **** about Obama's lack of experience in 2008 or his presidency in 2012). Hillary is already a ship that has sailed and is losing popularity points every time she opens her mouth. Besides...she does a pisspoor black accent which is heard only once every 8 years (that coincides with how often she goes to church, BTW).

Meanwhile...every category and misery index in the black community has gotten dramatically worse over the last 6 years. Sorry...I just dont think Hillary (or any white candidate) alone will inspire large voter turnout in the minority community.
 
The RNC could certainly do worse, but rekindling excitement about a candidate that wasn't awe-inspiring the first go-round wouldn't be an easy task.
 
VanceMack said:
Meanwhile...every category and misery index in the black community has gotten dramatically worse over the last 6 years.
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Just plainly wrong. The black unemployment rate, for example, was 12.7 the month that Obama took office and rising rapidly, topping out at 16.9 percent towards the tail end of the recession. It currently resides at 10.7.
 
a351 said:
Yo dude, you just don't know about Benganzie! Hillery is dun fer!
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And then Mitt Romney will retroactively become president in 2012!
 
Kobie said:
And then Mitt Romney will retroactively become president in 2012!
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Not a bad idea. We could fill the empty hole Obama left.
 
Grant said:
Perhaps you should actually familiarize yourself with the man. Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Self made men don't pay college expenses by selling stocks their parents gave him...not to mention have tuition paid for by them. Granted, lots of people get an edge from their better-off parents---lord knows I certainly benefitted from wealthier parents---but we don't say we hit the triple when we know we were born on second or third base. Self made men hit doubles, triples and homeruns.
 
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