View Poll Results: Does it make sense for Romney t run again?

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  • Absoutely. He's by far the best shot the RNC has.

    23 18.40%
  • He might be good if he can shake the 47% remark he made.

    2 1.60%
  • I really don't care who the RNC puts up at this point

    10 8.00%
  • The guy is DOA. Find some new blood.

    57 45.60%
  • History suggests that he should not run again.

    33 26.40%
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I heard this at several "fireside" talks and youth conference "signs of the times" talks. Nobody every specifically mentioned Romney by name...(this was back in the early 1980's). However, every speaker was very clear that in the final days a Mormon would be President and would lead the country through the "apocalypse". Maybe it got toned down in later years....but it definitely was taught.
    I grew up in the eighties/nineties and have never seen that at any firesides. The LDS first presidency/twelve apostles have never taught this. What most likely happened was that whoever was in charge of the firesides at the ward or wards in the area that you attended believed these unsubstantiated prepper/conspiracy type rumors, and got hold of some tapes created by these types. It is not official doctrine and is outside mainstream LDS.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    I grew up in the eighties/nineties and have never seen that at any firesides. The LDS first presidency/twelve apostles have never taught this. What most likely happened was that whoever was in charge of the firesides at the ward or wards in the area that you attended believed these unsubstantiated prepper/conspiracy type rumors, and got hold of some tapes created by these types. It is not official doctrine and is outside mainstream LDS.
    Thats possible....but I heard it taught several times in different areas of the Salt Lake Valley area. I would estimate on about 3-4 different occassions. I don't discount your assertion that it is not mainstream LDS doctrine from the mouths of those in the highest levels...but the belief it is more widespread that you are contending and had to have come from somewhere....and its not fringe groups promoting it, these were all well respected church going Mormons teaching this.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thats possible....but I heard it taught several times in different areas of the Salt Lake Valley area. I would estimate on about 3-4 different occassions. I don't discount your assertion that it is not mainstream LDS doctrine from the mouths of those in the highest levels...but the belief it is more widespread that you are contending and had to have come from somewhere....and its not fringe groups promoting it, these were all well respected church going Mormons teaching this.
    The rumored prophecy that the Constitution would hang by a thread and be saved by the LDS is a rumor likely commonly known, although it is unsubstantiated and not official doctrine. The belief that this unverified "prophecy" means that there would a LDS president is not widespread.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Most people not hacks agree, Romney refused to release returns from before 2010 for one of two or three reasons:
    1. The returns would prove he lied about not being active in Baine Capital
    2. The returns if scrutinized would show illegalities
    3. The returns would expose how little, if any, tax Romney actually paid.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    It is not official doctrine and is outside mainstream LDS.
    What about Blacks not being allowed into the clergy? Why did that change when their tax exempt status was in jeopardy?
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    What about Blacks not being allowed into the clergy? Why did that change when their tax exempt status was in jeopardy?
    When Brigham Young enacted the policy, he stated there would be a later time when those of black African descent would also have the priesthood. It has never been revealed why the policy was enacted. In 1978 the restriction was lifted. The LDS were anti-slavery, the Book of Mormon is a critique against racism and states the following: 33 For none of these iniquities come of the Lord; for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men; and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.-2 Nephi 26:33

    While most other churches in the U.S. were segregated and many supported slavery, the LDS was just the opposite. My theory as to why there was a temporary ban on the priesthood is that free agency is a fundamental principle of the priesthood. It wasn't until after WW2 that African nations began to free themselves from imperial rule by Europeans, and not until after the Civil Rights movement that blacks and whites could even use the same water fountain down South. There are other possibilities for the restriction. Maybe white people were not righteous enough and ready for total integration and it was delayed to a later date. In LDS theology those in this life who do not have the opportunity to have the full blessings of the gospel but who would have embraced it if given the chance, will have all those blessings in the hereafter. No blessing will be denied to them. One last thing, in the Bible the priesthood has always been denied to cerain lineages, while others have been given access. With no explanation why. Only the tribe of Levi could hold the priesthood during the time of Moses. The gentiles were not to be taught the gospel while Jesus was with the Israelites in person but when He ascended to the Father the apostles were given by revelation that the time had come to bring the gospel to the gentiles. Today all people have access to every blessing of the gospel, as the early LDS prophets stated would happen.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If Romney was so "transparent" why didn't he release his tax returns like the rest of the Presidential candidates? There must be something he doesn't want us to know.
    I knew there had to be someone, somewhere, who actually believes Harry Reid.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post


    He released nothing prior to 2010, which is what the controversy was about. Sheesh.
    And this is why you thought Barrack Obama would make a better President?

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    The rumored prophecy that the Constitution would hang by a thread and be saved by the LDS is a rumor likely commonly known, although it is unsubstantiated and not official doctrine. The belief that this unverified "prophecy" means that there would a LDS president is not widespread.
    OK....maybe in your circles. But I heard it several times throughout Murray, Millcreek, West Jordan and Salt Lake....it wasn't just once, it was several times, all by people who were good standing Mormons....not some fringe group. There was a lot of talk about it during the last Presidential election as well...so you can't say that it is not widespread. It may not be official Mormon doctrine but it is more widespread than you are willing to admit.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And this is why you thought Barrack Obama would make a better President?
    No, Mitt's waffling nature made it clear that Obama is a better president than Romney could ever hope to be.

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