View Poll Results: Does it make sense for Romney t run again?

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  • Absoutely. He's by far the best shot the RNC has.

    23 18.40%
  • He might be good if he can shake the 47% remark he made.

    2 1.60%
  • I really don't care who the RNC puts up at this point

    10 8.00%
  • The guy is DOA. Find some new blood.

    57 45.60%
  • History suggests that he should not run again.

    33 26.40%
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Thread: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, you're not critical of right wingers. Quit pretending, Grant. It's unbecoming of a grown ass man.
    Which 'right wingers' are you referring to? Which 'right wing' policies?

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Apparently you don't, if you think approval ratings of a sitting president are the barometer by which he will be judged forever.
    Why is it so hard for you, History, what happened yesterday is History.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which 'right wingers' are you referring to? Which 'right wing' policies?
    At least he thinks your ass is grown.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He's already run for POTUS twice. And lost both times.Which President in the last 50 years ran for POTUS twice, and lost both times, and then came back to win on try #3?
    But Mormon prophecy says that a Mormon will lead this Country during the last days before the second coming of Christ. Romney, a devout Mormon....has to believe that this is him. I think he expected the truth of the prophecy to lead him to office in 2008. I suspect he may throw his hat in again because he can't for a moment believe that the mormon prophecy is about Huntsman.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    "The $1.3 billion figure cited in the DNC ad comes from a September 2000 GAO analysis of Olympic spending, undertaken at the request of Rep. John Dingell and Sen. John McCain. It included about $1.1 billion in indirect funding for the 2002 games, including such things as highways, transit systems and other capital improvements." Slaloming Through Olympic Facts The same article said that $1.1 billion was already budgeted for those projects and may have been accelerated due to the upcoming Olympics. Most of the rest of the federal money went for increased security in the wake of 9/11.

    As for vague claims re consensus, we have Romney's record in Massachusetts. Nothing vague about it. He did it.

    I know it doesn't fit the politically correct version and the assigned partisan talking points, but he did it.

    The fact is Romney has a very good and very transparent track record demonstrating that he knows what is necessary for a successful business, how to achieve a successful administration, and how to identify and solve big problems. For a very long time now, I know of no other candidates running for high office, who can claim experience and credentials like that.

    Is he the best man for the job? I don't know. But I sure as hell know he has more real experience than anybody else that I can think of who might run.
    If Romney was so "transparent" why didn't he release his tax returns like the rest of the Presidential candidates? There must be something he doesn't want us to know.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But Mormon prophecy says that a Mormon will lead this Country during the last days before the second coming of Christ. Romney, a devout Mormon....has to believe that this is him. I think he expected the truth of the prophecy to lead him to office in 2008. I suspect he may throw his hat in again because he can't for a moment believe that the mormon prophecy is about Huntsman.
    There is no official LDS prophecy that states that. I know there are a bunch of likely hoaxes on the internet from distant non verified sources that conspiracy types think are legit. The real prophecies are the ones in the LDS scriptures, canonized, such as Joseph Smith stating there would be the Civil War about 30 yrs before it happened. This is part of a prophecy, the rest having never been published to the world, that the prophet Joseph Smith received on Christmas Eve 1832 when praying about slavery in the world. It was published in newspapers in England:

    1 Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
    2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.
    3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.
    4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
    5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
    6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
    7 That the cry of the Saints, and of the blood of the Saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Saboath, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
    8 Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day of the Lord come; for behold it cometh quickly, saith the Lord. Amen.



    The apostle "Orson Hyde was mocked by Eastern papers after an 1850 public speech in which he stated that war was about to divide the nation. In 1862, after the beginning of the Civil War, he wrote an "I told you so" letter to the editor of the Missouri Republican of Springfield. What he wrote shows that Joseph's prophecies of war went well beyond the Civil War and, as Allred puts it, "included an additional, chilling detail of events yet future." Here is the excerpt from Orson Hyde:
    You have scarcely yet read the preface of your national trouble. Many nations will be drawn into the American maelstrom that now whirls through our land; and after many days, when the demon of war shall have exhausted his strength and madness upon American soil, by the destruction of all that can court or provoke opposition, he will remove his headquarters to the banks of the Rhine.
    Millennial Star, 24 (3 May 1862):274-275, emphasis added.
    Last edited by laska; 07-09-14 at 05:08 PM.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    There is no official LDS prophecy that states that. I know there are a bunch of likely hoaxes on the internet from distant non verified sources that conspiracy types think are legit. The real prophecies are the ones in the LDS scriptures, canonized, such as Joseph Smith stating there would be the Civil War about 30 yrs before it happened. This is part of a prophecy, the rest having never been published to the world, that the prophet Joseph Smith received on Christmas Eve 1832 when praying about slavery in the world. It was published in newspapers in England:

    1 Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
    2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.
    3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.
    4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
    5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
    6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
    7 That the cry of the Saints, and of the blood of the Saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Saboath, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
    8 Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day of the Lord come; for behold it cometh quickly, saith the Lord. Amen.



    The apostle "Orson Hyde was mocked by Eastern papers after an 1850 public speech in which he stated that war was about to divide the nation. In 1862, after the beginning of the Civil War, he wrote an "I told you so" letter to the editor of the Missouri Republican of Springfield. What he wrote shows that Joseph's prophecies of war went well beyond the Civil War and, as Allred puts it, "included an additional, chilling detail of events yet future." Here is the excerpt from Orson Hyde:
    You have scarcely yet read the preface of your national trouble. Many nations will be drawn into the American maelstrom that now whirls through our land; and after many days, when the demon of war shall have exhausted his strength and madness upon American soil, by the destruction of all that can court or provoke opposition, he will remove his headquarters to the banks of the Rhine.
    Millennial Star, 24 (3 May 1862):274-275, emphasis added.
    It may not be part of the Mormon Book of Mormon....but it definitely is something that is widely taught by the Mormon church. I grew up in Utah....lived there about 25 years. Attended several youth conference meetings with friends. It was definitely taught as doctrine by church members.
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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It may not be part of the Mormon Book of Mormon....but it definitely is something that is widely taught by the Mormon church. I grew up in Utah....lived there about 25 years. Attended several youth conference meetings with friends. It was definitely taught as doctrine by church members.
    If it's widely talked about, I've never heard it except from coming across it on the internet and have been LDS basically entire life and lived in Orem for a couple of years. It definitely is not official doctrine. It is fringe internet stuff with unverified sources. The supposed prophecy is that the constitution would be hanging by the thread and the LDS people will save it. Maybe in Utah some people may think that means Romney, who knows.
    Last edited by laska; 07-09-14 at 06:22 PM.

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If Romney was so "transparent" why didn't he release his tax returns like the rest of the Presidential candidates? There must be something he doesn't want us to know.
    What on Earth are you talking about? Romney released his tax returns. Here are all 379 pages of them.

    http://images.politico.com/global/20...2011_1040.html

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    Re: Mitt Romney in 2016: Yes, or No?

    Religion of any stripe looks pretty freaking insane to those of us who don't believe in it. It's kind of funny seeing someone argue that their hocus-pocus beliefs are more legitimate than another person's cling to a slightly different array of magical fantasies.

    In a sane world, any politician who professes a belief in the invisible sky daddy would be immediately dismissed from the ranks of viable candidates. But alas...fate has it that only the abnormal refuse to believe in ancient myths.

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