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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    In matters of augmenting a mess, Obama takes the crown.
    pissing on the constitution-Obama



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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygodmedia View Post
    If we were to take a closer look at the day by day acounts of these 2 administrations, clearly Obama wins. How quicky the gop forgets the mess they made. One of the dumbest things i heard on fox news was we were safer under bush AFTER 9 11. Well did it happen on the gop watch. Give me a break Obama has been cleaning up the mess bush and his war buddys made for over 5 years now.
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    In my book both Bush and Obama are below average presidents. Perhaps you should have asked who is doing the least worst job on all matters.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea, please stop voting.

    I mean really, what a desperately innane and ignorant statement that was.

    That we've had a "strong recovery " since 2008.

    You cant just show up here and make stuff up

    I mean you can, I wouldn't expect anything else from you, but don't think you're not going to get challenged.

    6 years in and we just had a 3 percent contraction in our economy, and thats after 7 Trillion in new structural debt since

    20 Million plus people added to the unemployment roles, and disability rates have more than doubled.

    Labor participation rates are near record lows and there are plenty of PART TIME Positions.

    Poverty rates have increased and more and Americans have neen introduced to chronic unemployment.

    " strong recovery " ? Only in your delsusion driven alternative reality
    Wait how about nearly 50,000,000 on food stamps? I know I know its good for the economy.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    In matters of making a mess of things, Bush takes the crown.
    that's a matter of opinion... I think FDR takes the cake, personally

    Bush and Obama are amateurs in comparison.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Bush is better than Obama on taxes, spending, regulation and economic growth
    Bush is better than Obama on national security and foreign affairs
    Bush is better than Obama on protecting and promoting Americans' rights to life, liberty and property
    Bush is better than Obama on representing American ideals and American exceptionalism
    Bush is better than Obama at not demonizing his opponents and attempting to earnestly appeal to all Americans
    Bush is better than Obama at obeying the law and protecting, preserving and defending the Constitution

    The only thing where Obama > Bush is in sucking at his job and destroying the country.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    The only thing where Obama > Bush is in sucking at his job and destroying the country.
    Who said Obama gets no credit from Conservatives! Bipartisanship lives!

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    In order for a single individual or even an entire Administration to work meaningful changes in the order of society, it needs a lifetime, and probably a dynasty spanning multiple generations. That's how long it takes to get hundreds of millions of people to change their behavior and expectations.

    Bush and Obama are merely stewards for collectivized will of the D.C. power structure. They are incapable of exercising much will, agency, or leadership because there wasn't enough time for either of them to begin working the slow, gradual changes that would allow them (or rather their great grandsons) to have the society they would have preferred.
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    In order for a single individual or even an entire Administration to work meaningful changes in the order of society, it needs a lifetime, and probably a dynasty spanning multiple generations. That's how long it takes to get hundreds of millions of people to change their behavior and expectations.

    Bush and Obama are merely stewards for collectivized will of the D.C. power structure. They are incapable of exercising much will, agency, or leadership because there wasn't enough time for either of them to begin working the slow, gradual changes that would allow them (or rather their great grandsons) to have the society they would have preferred.
    Perhaps the role of the President of the United States is to faithfully execute the law and to uphold the Constitution, not to "get hundreds of millions of people to change their behavior and expectations" or to "have the society they would have preferred"?

    Radical idea, I know.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    Perhaps the role of the President of the United States is to faithfully execute the law and to uphold the Constitution, not to "get hundreds of millions of people to change their behavior and expectations" or to "have the society they would have preferred"?

    Radical idea, I know.
    U.S. Constitution was written to govern a frontier society where independence and self-reliance were the order of the day because nothing else could be relied upon. We live in the 21st century and face 21st century threats. The U.S. Constitution is nowhere near equal to the task of governing us anymore. Instead of just getting rid of it and forming a new government and a new constitution the way we should have (at 1860, 1900, and 1945) we've allowed these cancerous growths to form.

    At a certain time, formerly useful legal systems become redundant and must be discarded. Hammurabi's Code has enormous flaws, but the idea of a justice system based on abstract principles universal in their application in a society where justice was predicated on family and tribal ties was a great leap forward, echoing from the cradle of civilization across time to work its influence in the laws we enjoy today.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 07-06-14 at 10:33 AM.
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Bush made it easier to get a mortgage.
    Obama made it even easier and still thinks it's too hard.

    Bush increased spending.
    Obama increased it further.

    Bush increased the debt.
    Obama increased it faster.

    Bush increased health spending.
    Obama increased it further.

    Bush Ousted Saddam.
    Obama did a surge in Afghanistan, intervened in Libya and wanted to intervene in Syria.

    Bush supported the Patriot Act.
    Obama supported the Patriot Act.

    Bush did warrantless wiretaps.
    Obama quadrupled them. Obama also added the AP scandal and the Verizon scandal.

    Bush cracked down on medical marijuana.
    Obama cracked down harder.

    Bush lacked transparency.
    Obama is even less transparent.

    Bush waited for Congress to recess before doing recess appointments.
    Obama did recess appointments when Congress wasn't in recess.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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