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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Well, I can't "force" you to accept any of the thorny realities cited above. I don't know how you expect a document written for pioneers in the 1700s (with no serious external obstacles threatening their social and economic expansion) to address the challenges of an era ruled by technological sorcery.
    This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on DP. How about the threat of Indian raids, or maybe just eating on a daily basis? While you sit in your comfy living room, pondering the channels you're surfing, while trying to judge people who had to actually put in a daily effort to live. And we won't get into the Constitution because I doubt you know anything about it. And the men who wrote that document knew a great deal about governments, philosophy, politics and societies (because they studied them).......something the average HS grad today couldn't even comprehend. And they predicted a great deal about their posterity. The oldest working constitution in the world of one of the youngest countries of the world that is the superpower of the world. No, you don't have a clue what they accomplished back in 1787.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    With GWB? Absolutely. With practically everything else? Not so much.
    Misguided.
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    LOL are you serious?! Post irrefutable evidence that the super-rich disproportionately vote Democratic.

    Oh, and BTW. The word "liberal" is a compliment. Not an insult. Because:

    Buffett, Gates, Turner, Spielberg, Soros, Jobs, Oprah, Bloomturd among others

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ocratic-party/

    We cross-checked the Open Secrets list of the top 100 individuals donating to outside spending groups in the current election against the Forbes list of the world’s billionaires and found that, as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 -- or more than half -- gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. The other nine gave predominantly to conservative groups. (A list of billionaires and how much they donated can be found here.)



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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Buffett, Gates, Turner, Spielberg, Soros, Jobs, Oprah, Bloomturd among others

    How many billionaires support the Democratic vs. Republican parties? | PolitiFact

    We cross-checked the Open Secrets list of the top 100 individuals donating to outside spending groups in the current election against the Forbes list of the world’s billionaires and found that, as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 -- or more than half -- gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. The other nine gave predominantly to conservative groups. (A list of billionaires and how much they donated can be found here.)
    And of course, there will always be obstacles to progress. For the many to have reasonable opportunities, the few may no longer be able to live so lavishly. But we can't have that, because that's librul soshalist guv'mint tit-sucking.
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    And of course, there will always be obstacles to progress. For the many to have reasonable opportunities, the few may no longer be able to live so lavishly. But we can't have that, because that's librul soshalist guv'mint tit-sucking.
    my idea of progress is less and less government
    less and less dependency



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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    LOL are you serious?! Post irrefutable evidence that the super-rich disproportionately vote Democratic.

    Oh, and BTW. The word "liberal" is a compliment. Not an insult. Because:


    Well thats a long list of lies.

    Liberals got African Americans the right to vote ? The Democrat party FILIBUSTERED the 1964 voting rights act.

    The Democrats were the party that CREATED Jim Crow laws, supported segregation.

    Richard Nixon created the EPA.

    And a elderly person relying entirely on Social security is pretty much living in poverty.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    my idea of progress is less and less government
    less and less dependency
    Perhaps we should learn a thing or two from the Natives, then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well thats a long list of lies.

    Liberals got African Americans the right to vote ? The Democrat party FILIBUSTERED the 1964 voting rights act.

    The Democrats were the party that CREATED Jim Crow laws, supported segregation.

    Richard Nixon created the EPA.

    And a elderly person relying entirely on Social security is pretty much living in poverty.
    I don't expect anyone who opposes measures that benefit the common good to tell the truth on a consistent basis.
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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Perhaps we should learn a thing or two from the Natives, then?



    I don't expect anyone who opposes measures that benefit the common good to tell the truth on a consistent basis.
    your concept of liberals is faulty. and again. progress is people growing out of childhood
    current "liberalism" is all about keeping people in a permanent state of childhood so their self appointed "parents" gain wealth and power in office



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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Ointment or suppository?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Bush vs Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your concept of liberals is faulty. and again. progress is people growing out of childhood
    current "liberalism" is all about keeping people in a permanent state of childhood so their self appointed "parents" gain wealth and power in office
    This does not address my question. If "less government" is the way to go, should we live life more like those of the Natives?
    "A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons." --Hillary Rodham Clinton
    "Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections." --Mitt Romney

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