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  • They decided a private corporation can object to all forms of birth control.

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Thread: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We Conservative don't want anyone controlling our lives.

    You want the government controlling your life because they give away free stuff whereas corporations don't.



    The only thing that's free on this planet is the air (Which isn't hardly worth breathing at some locations.).

    Everything else has a cost attached to it which someone has to pay.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, unfortunately, some women do used it as a form of birth control. I don't care what they do personally,
    I just have an aversion to funding abortion, which is the same issue that HL had.



    I am also, in general opposed to abortion.

    But I don't believe that I have the right to make other peoples decisions on this for them (Or to tell them what kind of beer to drink.).




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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, unfortunately, some women do used it as a form of birth control. I don't care what they do personally, I just have an aversion to funding abortion, which is the same issue that HL had.
    HL had a problem specifically with birth control, and the Roman Catholic Supreme Court applied the decision to all forms of birth control. And in any case, they are not paying birth control. Employees earn their health insurance as part of their compensation package. HL does not pay for insurance as a "gift" to their employees. The best solution is to move to single payer health care, similar to Medicare, and get corporations out of the business of making decisions about what type of health care we have.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    It's still the government that makes the laws we must live under, though. They can be challenged, and they regularly are, but that's to be expected and encouraged since we are a Constitutional Republic. You can't expect anything else,
    since it's impossible to please all the people all the time.






    And pretty much a waste of time to even try.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I am also, in general opposed to abortion.

    But I don't believe that I have the right to make other peoples decisions on this for them (Or to tell them what kind of beer to drink.).




    "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
    I don't either. My only issue is the funding. Otherwise, I don't care what you do, if it's legal.
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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My employer has no power over me when I'm not working. Your employer holds power over you when you're not on their time? You may want to find another job.
    Many employer's do indeed exercise power of their employees when they aren't on the job. Many employers, including most public entities, will not allow their employees to smoke at all, and it is a termination offense if they do. Same with drug use, including marijuana. Also, many employees who work on contract have various clauses, including "morals" clauses, that allow termination if the employee... in the opinion of the employer... behaves in a manner that violates the employer's "moral" values.

    In this market, simply "finding another job" is far from easy, and most people cannot afford the luxury of being unemployed until they find a job that doesn't exercise some control over their non-working hours.

    I'm not criticizing your comments, simply pointing out that they are not all-encompassing and many, many people are affected by their employer's policies on and off the job. It is much, much more pervasive than it was even 20 years ago.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The corporation I work for has no power over my life, except in that I am expected to follow and uphold company policies when I am on the clock.



    IOW: they have a lot of power and control over your life, eh?

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My employer has no power over me when I'm not working. Your employer holds power over you when you're not on their time?
    You may want to find another job.



    And there are lots of jobs available all over the USA, eh?

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    The government (federal and local.) doesn't always do everything that it's supposed to do.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    IOW: they have a lot of power and control over your life, eh?
    24 hours per week, if you consider that a lot of power. I don't.
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