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  • They decided only those four methods of birth control can be withheld.

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  • They decided a private corporation can object to all forms of birth control.

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Thread: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Generally speaking no one can force you to do anything that you don't want to do.

    Not legally anyways..

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    This is not always that easy in a lot of situations for a lot of people.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How does a corporation get to control an employees life exactly?



    With the help of the conservatives on the U.S. Supreme Court.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Frankly, I don't really see this as being much different from the same purposes of the Hyde Amendment, which was passed back in the 70's, to prevent taxpayer money funding of abortion. I know the intent and method is different, but they are both issues regarding payment for something which is conscientiously objected to, by a certain segment of the population.

    It is about abortion funding, not birth control.
    If it were about birth control, HL would have objected to the other birth control medications/methods as well as the abortifacients.



    Abortion is a form of birth control.

    A fetus that is aborted doesn't go on to live a happy life.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And it still didn't answer my question.

    Corporations don't exert control over me unless I choose to engage them.
    As I sit here typing, what control is, for instance, Boeing or Hallmark exerting over me?


    Every corporation on this planet targets everyone who spends any time on the internet with advertising based on what seems to appeal to that individual based on what they do on the internet.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The HL decision won't impact me at all.
    There is no control exerted on my life, nor on the lives of the HL employees for that matter.



    The additional expense that some Hobby Lobby employees will have for birth control has to impact their lifes in some way.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The question is what SCOTUS decided, not what Hobby Lobby wanted. Catholics are against all forms birth control, does this decision give a corporation owned by Catholics give relief from the mandate?
    Is Alito Catholic?



    According to Wiki he is.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    you changing as a person is not necessary for control to be exercised over your life. you may choose to fight that control by taking the "high road" but by fighting it, you are, in your actions admitting to its influence.

    your broader point is also true. There are other things besides corporations that exert control over people as well. Past choices, environmental factors such as the amount of particulates or even pollen in the air, the choices of the people around us, etc.
    Its all connected in a giant web.



    Like the internet.

    What one person posts affects other people.

    Even if it's only the time that they waste reading that post.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    There are 6 Roman Catholics on the Supreme court, and 5 of them are men who represent the conservative wing of Catholicism.

    We should start calling it the Roman Catholic Supreme Court.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Abortion is a form of birth control.

    A fetus that is aborted doesn't go on to live a happy life.
    Yes, unfortunately, some women do used it as a form of birth control. I don't care what they do personally, I just have an aversion to funding abortion, which is the same issue that HL had.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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