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  • They decided a private corporation can object to all forms of birth control.

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Thread: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I don't see what this has to do with my response
    Perhaps I didn't get the gist of your post, but I believe it's the different branches of government that are the problem, not the business community or anyone else, and that's the point I was attempting to make. Apologies if I misunderstood.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Perhaps I didn't get the gist of your post, but I believe it's the different branches of government that are the problem, not the business community or anyone else, and that's the point I was attempting to make. Apologies if I misunderstood.
    I think all contributors share some amount of the blame. Its not just one power center.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I think all contributors share some amount of the blame. Its not just one power center.
    It's still the government that makes the laws we must live under, though. They can be challenged, and they regularly are, but that's to be expected and encouraged since we are a Constitutional Republic. You can't expect anything else, since it's impossible to please all the people all the time.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    It's still the government that makes the laws we must live under, though. They can be challenged, and they regularly are, but that's to be expected and encouraged since we are a Constitutional Republic. You can't expect anything else, since it's impossible to please all the people all the time.
    Yes, government makes laws but that is not the only input into our environment, which freedom is dependent on. The better and less constrained the environment the freer someone is which was the basis of my point.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How does a corporation get to control an employees life exactly?
    Corporations have all the power when it comes to employees. This ruling just gave them a little more.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Corporations have all the power when it comes to employees. This ruling just gave them a little more.
    The corporation I work for has no power over my life, except in that I am expected to follow and uphold company policies when I am on the clock.
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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Only to the extent that I let it. Porn is a huge industry, and we have no doubt seen some relaxing of sexual standards over the past few decades, but was it because porn had an influence, or has there been an increase in the porn industry as a result of changing standards? I tend to think it's probably the latter. Porn hasn't influenced my life a bit, as far as I am aware.
    Do you think porn has had any effect, however slight, on how you are expected to maintain your body?
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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    I can't really respond to the question because I don't believe either of the first two options are comprehensive enough and can be open to misinterpretation and the latter one also implies a person doesn't understand the decision.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Corporations have all the power when it comes to employees. This ruling just gave them a little more.
    My employer has no power over me when I'm not working. Your employer holds power over you when you're not on their time? You may want to find another job.

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    Re: Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decided?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Do you think porn has had any effect, however slight, on how you are expected to maintain your body?
    Tbh, I've never really even thought about that. I tend to think it's not so much a porn issue, as a deeply ingrained human sexuality issue. Women are historically valued for their beauty, and we still think that way when we are older. Men are more likely to be valued for their intellect and monetary successes.
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