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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post


    We will probably never know.

    However, IMHO the video clearly shows the immediate threat (assuming there was one), whatever it may have been, was no longer an *immediate* threat to anybody.

    The officer went overboard.
    Quite possibly. Thats what the review board is for.

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...you cant 'see' that because until the other individual arrives she never stops resisting.

    No one is making any excuses or even stating the officer was justified...merely stating there is possibly more to the story than your narrow minded bias will allow you to see.
    Um Yes I and anyone with eyes who is watching the video can. At the 28 second mark the women is literally only guarding her face, despite this the cop continues to punch her in the head.
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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Um Yes I and anyone with eyes who is watching the video can. At the 28 second mark the women is literally only guarding her face, despite this the cop continues to punch her in the head.
    What did she do at 32 seconds into the video. And at what point did she cover her head? And what transpired prior to the video?

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Quite possibly. Thats what the review board is for.
    I will attempt to put my cynicism aside...

    They tend to "have each others backs" in these situations, though. Which is true of most professions.

    But police conduct/decisions affect the general public so much more...

    Again... *attempting* to put my cynicism aside.....

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    I will attempt to put my cynicism aside...

    They tend to "have each others backs" in these situations, though. Which is true of most professions.

    But police conduct/decisions affect the general public so much more...

    Again... *attempting* to put my cynicism aside.....
    Im not certain but RELATIVELY sure that LA has an independent civilian review board. But...we will see.

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    DOnt know if she was or wasnt. All we know for sure is that there was SOME sort of incident requiring police presence on a freeway.
    I'm going to assume that the vehicle that you see parked off on the shoulder is that of the off duty police officer who came to the assistance of the CHP officer.

    He pulled off to the shoulder for some reason, he must have seen something happening up the road that caused him to pull over.

    Then you have the individuals who were taking the video, they were laughing before the CHP tried to apprehend the lady and kept on laughing. They must of saw what took place before they started videoing the incident. It's not normal to laugh when a cop is beating someone unless you're 5150.

    Maybe they did video what took place before the beating but it was left out for a reason ?

    USC Medical Center said there was no injuries to the woman. And she's sitting in the mental ward right now.

    Who knows, the CHP officer might have saved the lady's life from being runover by a car ?

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What did she do at 32 seconds into the video. And what transpired prior to the video?
    If answered this question three times now with a source. The cop himself already stated the woman was guilty of nothing but walking in the highway that is why he accosted her. The question then is in what circumstance does a full grown man, one who is clearly fit, feel it is necessary to punch woman in the fashion that he did. I've seen regular men in bars ascertain drunk women with less violence than this officer.

    Video shows officer punching woman on LA freeway | Fox News
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    YES! there is justification. Itís called walking while black.
    There we go using "the race card." Racism in America no longer exists...unless we're talking about people who voted for Obama obviously just because he's black or rather half black.
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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    If answered this question three times now with a source. The cop himself already stated the woman was guilty of nothing but walking in the highway that is why he accosted her. The question then is in what circumstance does a full grown man, one who is clearly fit, feel it is necessary to punch woman in the fashion that he did. I've seen regular men in bars ascertain drunk women with less violence than this officer.

    Video shows officer punching woman on LA freeway | Fox News
    Your own source states the woman presented a threat to herself and others, and that there is more to the incident than what is being shown.

    What transpired prior to the video being shown? Why does the individual that is filming the incident state "and then they say police brutality" and encourage the officer to "arrest her"?

    We know about 14 seconds worth of what actually transpired. It may very well be that the use of force was unwarranted and excessive. It may be the use of force was warranted BUT excessive. And it may be that the use of force was both warranted and not excessive. We wont know that until we know more than a few seconds blended with a whole lot of bias.

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    Re: Is there any possible justification for what is happening in the Video

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Your own source states the woman presented a threat to herself and others, and that there is more to the incident than what is being shown.
    Yes, I have conceded that she was walking in the highway, which is obviously dangerous. The source simply says that the whole incident was not filmed however the chief relays what was put on the incident report via the cop in question.

    O'Quinn said the incident report listed no injuries for the woman, who would not give her name. She is undergoing psychiatric evaluation, he said.

    He said the officer was answering a report of a pedestrian on the freeway. When he found the woman, she started walking down an off-ramp and then turned around, walked back onto the freeway and started wandering into lanes, O'Quinn said. That's when the incident occurred.
    If there was any other outstanding information, It would be included, especially if it would justify the cops actions. All that said there is nothing that justifies choosing to beat the women rather than just apprehend her.

    Also the man who captured the video, the one talking, is not in agreement with the officer as can be confirmed here in this link in which he is actually questioned. He gives his first hand account of the situation. Another witness in the same link, again someone who was actually there, says the women posed no threat.

    Video Shows CHP Officer Repeatedly Hitting Woman | NBC Southern California

    What transpired prior to the video being shown?
    The question is answered in the link. The women was walking in the highway.
    Why does the individual that is filming the incident state "and then they say police brutality" and encourage the officer to "arrest her"?
    I don't know why and neither do you. The whole conversation is out of any context. Either way nothing said dismisses what is shown in that video. Which is a weaponless women being beat down by a cop.


    We know about 14 seconds worth of what actually transpired. It may very well be that the use of force was unwarranted and excessive.
    Ding Ding Ding

    And it may be that the use of force was both warranted and not excessive.
    How? In what circumstance are the actions necessary against a weaponless, barefoot woman in a dress.
    We wont know that until we know more than a few seconds blended with a whole lot of bias.
    The cop will get off either way. Regardless if what he did was unwarranted.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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