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Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?


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Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.

Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.
 
BC to me is right along a boob job. You either live without it or you pay your own way. And I am very serious. It is not essential like heart meds or insulin.
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.

No one has a right to contraceptives. They do have a right to a gun. But you have to provide for it yourself. No one has to sell anyone anything.
 
Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.

That's the same thing.
 
BC to me is right along a boob job. You either live without it or you pay your own way. And I am very serious. It is not essential like heart meds or insulin.

I would support a constitutional amendment guaranteeing every woman a boob job. :mrgreen:
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.

When the government passes a law, entering into the marketplace demanding that employers of a certain number of employees must fund or subsidize the purchase of a gun for all employees, even those who have no use for a gun and would never want to purchase one, then you would still not have a violation of a constitutional right to own a gun if an employer refused to do so because only you, as a citizen, can exercise an individual constitutional right and only you, as a citizen, are responsible for your taking advantage of that constitutional right.

This left wing group speak that seems to blubber about government supplying rights is the direct result of decades of left wing nonsense about demanding the government satisfy a citizen's every need and desire. It is a major plank of the left wing dependency state.
 
Because the Supreme court ruled on provisons of the ACA does not make ACA, healthcare, or contraceptives constitutional rights.
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No

Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.
NO.

Your employer can ban you from bringing, selling, or using your firearm at work.
 
Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.
So? What is the fundamental difference between me buying birth control or me paying for a policy that buys it for you?

I think the problem here isn't 'dumb right wing analogies' but power hungry left wing totalitarians that want to use the power of the state to force everyone to bend to their will. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the concept of a free society rather than insulting everyone who objects to your arbitrary use of force.
 
No one has banned contraception, taken away your access to it, your ability to use it, or refused you service because you take it.

It's all a matter of who pays for it.
 
So? What is the fundamental difference between me buying birth control or me paying for a policy that buys it for you?

I think the problem here isn't 'dumb right wing analogies' but power hungry left wing totalitarians that want to use the power of the state to force everyone to bend to their will. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the concept of a free society rather than insulting everyone who objects to your arbitrary use of force.

Totalitarians??????? wow another person who has no idea what that word means.

The difference is simple. We have a law that is Constitutional that regulates health insurance. Since most people get their health insurance through their employer as part of their compensation package it involves their employer. The regulation of that health insurance had birth control as part of the regular medical treatment provided. Hobby Lobby objected to some because of a religious belief meaning they were imposing their belief on their employees by telling them what medical treatments they can receive with their employer sponsored health insurance. So what we have is the question of how far can the government go for public health and what rights do your employers have over your life. The court ruled in an odd way trying to narrow the scope to family owner (even if publicly traded companies) can use their religious beliefs to circumvent the law. I find it troubling because in the long run I think other religious beliefs might be able to be used for other things.

The idea that arguing that a corporation cannot use their religious beliefs to avoid a law has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment being violated by a company not buying you a gun. I don't even know where to start to show how dumb that is.

However I do have a question as I know that some faiths do not like hunting or violence and have strong held beliefs about the sacred nature of all life. So can a employer with strong anti-violence beliefs force their employees to carry health insurance that doesn't cover, gun shot wounds from hunting accidents? injuries from fights or amateur boxing? What about Muslim employers who don't want to cover the result of using alcohol? See the point?

While the argument that the restrictions on Hobby Lobby were good enough to persuade the 5 conservative men on the court. I think we can still have a reasonable disagreement about how the argument is crafted and we care read one of the greatest legal minds of the last half century who wrote a great dissent, or you can continue to build strawmen (not that the left isn't also).
 
Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.
You are right in the fact they were not ASKED to buy birth control.They were being TOLD they had to buy birth control.Being asked implies that there is a choice. If someone bought you a car and the dirt bike sized spare tire for the car was a condition of buying you a car they still bought you a dirt bike sized spar tire for the car.
 
Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.


I knew liberals were stupid, but not so stupid to majorly self contradict themselves in the same statement.
 
Obviously not, but if what passes for liberal "reasoning" were applied consistently [pause to recover from hysterical laughter] then, yessir, they would. Good analogy.
 
Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.

and who do you think pays for that health insurance?

Seriously, think before you speak please.
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.

I'm not aware of anyone claiming any constitutional right to contraceptives. If anyone is they are surely in the minority and ill informed.

Contraceptives are and have been widely used as preventative medicine and used a treatments for a variety of ailments exclusive to females and therefore should be covered. Hobby Lobby's stance that IUDs, Plan B and Ella are abortifacients is misguided and incorrect. They do not prevent implantation, they only prevent fertilization and should be covered.

IUDs
Intrauterine device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Plan B
Levonorgestrel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ella plan b
Emergency contraception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Of course is doesn't. But that it's also a bad question.

I'm not aware of anyone claiming that they have Constitutional right to contraceptives. If people are they are indeed in the minority. Those that are making those claims are as misinformed as Hobby Lobby and The SCOTUS is about the contraceptives they refuse to cover
 
Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

Yes
No





Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.




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