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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Sounds reasonable to me. Why should some women have them and others have to do without?
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.
    I need to tell MSNBC that...

    I am still waiting for my amish employer to buy me ammunition. And no, hunting calibres are not good enough- I am demanding that he buy me 9mm and .40 calibre pistol ammunition.

    Next, I"ll define my social desire to get free beer included as a work benefit (Sam Adams does provide this benefit) as some kind of inherent "right". I"ll make my Muslim employer buy me beer. I can't understand why this angers him- he does not need to personally drink any of it, he just needs to buy it for me.

    That Hindu employer? Well, beef is good for the body, good for the country and it is whats for dinner in my house. He needs to give me some beef vouchers- pronto... .
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I wasn't referring to constitutional rights, which is why I inserted IMO. Basic needs should be a constitutional right, as well as the ability to purchase a gun. The supreme court decision was flawed because it did not account for the separation of church and state.
    Hmmm, the welfare state...

    According to Malsow, basic needs include food, water, shelter, clothing, and sexual reproduction.

    I remember when those needs were the responsibility of the family unit, not tax payers of the state, with the exception of sexual reproduction, which was an individual's responsibility.

    I can also remember when most people were too proud and independent to expect others to pay their way. Apparently they had reached the stage of self-actualization. Not any more for some it appears.

    I wonder what JFK would think about today's democrat voters?

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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Does your employer provide gun insurance that will pay for a new gun with a copay except certain guns that violate their religious beliefs?
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Believe it or not, there is more to the law than your rights. In this case, there is regulation that benefits the whole nation, and the nonsense idea that someone should be exempt from the law because they own a lot of property and believe in a religion. No one's beliefs should entitle them to special treatment under the law. Only facts should. The facts are that more easily available contraceptives are a boon to society. The facts are that health insurance covers contraceptives. The facts are not that anyone's opinions about other people's sexual activities has a damn thing to do with the laws governing insurance or contraceptives.



    I totally agree.

    I believe that eventually the courts incorrect ruling will be overturned. This will take a while, but it will happen.

    Wait and see.

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obama missed his chance to get Michelle upgrades for free.



    Michelle needs to get fairly large ones to balance her posterior.

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Does your employer provide gun insurance that will pay for a new gun with a copay except certain guns that violate their religious beliefs?
    Yes, my Amish employer will give me vouchers to buy 30.06, a rifle calibre commonly used for hunting animals. But, that is not good enough for me. I am demanding that he give me vouchers for 9mm and .40 calibre pistol ammunition- that is frequently used on humans.

    He wont do it, what should I do? I guess I could buy 9mm ammunition with the wages that he gives me, but that would limit my ability to pursue my social agenda designed to weaken his religion by compelling him to openly violate his religous beliefs... .

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Yes, my Amish employer will give me vouchers to buy 30.06, a rifle calibre commonly used for hunting animals. But, that is not good enough for me. I am demanding that he give me vouchers for 9mm and .40 calibre pistol ammunition- that is frequently used on humans.

    He wont do it, what should I do? I guess I could buy 9mm ammunition with the wages that he gives me, but that would limit my ability to pursue my social agenda designed to weaken his religion by compelling him to openly violate his religous beliefs... .
    Considering the Amish don't believe in insurance and think it goes against God's plan, I don't think they would be providing you gun insurance and would probably be exempt just like they are exempt from providing healthcare or social security so it's really not a fair comparison.
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The fact is that the SCOTUS ruled against you because a law cannot conflict with the Constitution itself.
    It doesn't conflict. They ruled against me because the conservative bloc is pro-Christian dominance and pro-rich people and pro-big business. They afforded special treatment to people because they are rich and religious at the same time. That's all.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I totally agree.

    I believe that eventually the courts incorrect ruling will be overturned. This will take a while, but it will happen.

    Wait and see.
    The country will eventually get over its love affair with corporations and will not only stop giving them and their owners special rights, they'll do away with the whole package and dump it in the trash bin with other obsolete notions. But how many people will be abused in the meantime?
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It doesn't conflict. They ruled against me because the conservative bloc is pro-Christian dominance and pro-rich people and pro-big business. They afforded special treatment to people because they are rich and religious at the same time. That's all.



    The country will eventually get over its love affair with corporations and will not only stop giving them and their owners special rights, they'll do away with the whole package and dump it in the trash bin with other obsolete notions. But how many people will be abused in the meantime?
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    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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