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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Is there a right wing dumb analogy generator somewhere. Hobby Lobby wasn't being asked to buy birth control, but that it be included in the heath insurance they provide.
    and who do you think pays for that health insurance?

    Seriously, think before you speak please.

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Yes
    No





    Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.
    I'm not aware of anyone claiming any constitutional right to contraceptives. If anyone is they are surely in the minority and ill informed.

    Contraceptives are and have been widely used as preventative medicine and used a treatments for a variety of ailments exclusive to females and therefore should be covered. Hobby Lobby's stance that IUDs, Plan B and Ella are abortifacients is misguided and incorrect. They do not prevent implantation, they only prevent fertilization and should be covered.

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Of course is doesn't. But that it's also a bad question.

    I'm not aware of anyone claiming that they have Constitutional right to contraceptives. If people are they are indeed in the minority. Those that are making those claims are as misinformed as Hobby Lobby and The SCOTUS is about the contraceptives they refuse to cover

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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's the same thing.
    removing those medications would do virtually nothing for the overall cost of the insurance that they have to provide...
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

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    No





    Watching bits and pieces of various MSNBC shows after the Hobby Lobby ruling the rabid leftists on MSNBC seem to be claiming or implying that a woman's 'right' to contraceptives is being violated because an employer is not being forced to pay for birth control due to religious beliefs of that employer.



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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    No, because the 2nd A doesn't require that your employer purchase a firearm for you.
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?-cwhatudid-jpg
    I see it too. Which is why I answered yes.

    Go to your employer tomorrow and say that it's your right, and you demand that they give you a gun because otherwise they are taking away your rights. Let us know how that goes. Especially when you point out that it's really just a BS point about Hobby Lobby.


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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So? What is the fundamental difference between me buying birth control or me paying for a policy that buys it for you?

    I think the problem here isn't 'dumb right wing analogies' but power hungry left wing totalitarians that want to use the power of the state to force everyone to bend to their will. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the concept of a free society rather than insulting everyone who objects to your arbitrary use of force.
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by DB20 View Post
    and who do you think pays for that health insurance?

    Seriously, think before you speak please.
    The employer pays for part of it. So does the employee. Insurance is part of the compensation for the employee fulfilling the terms of their employment.
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    Re: Does it violate my 2nd amendment rights if my employer doesn't buy me a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The employer pays for part of it. So does the employee. Insurance is part of the compensation for the employee fulfilling the terms of their employment.
    That's what it used to be for the companies that offered it as part of their benefits package - not all did. The PPACA made it mandatory for all employers of a certain size to pay for insurance they didn't offer before (the PPACA changed the standard policy minimums), so it's more of a federal tax that gets immediately redistributed to the employees rather than compensation from the employer.

    And as for contraception, the PPACA requires that it be paid 100% by the employer. So the employee pays nothing, in that instance.

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