View Poll Results: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration

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  • I believe the law should be followed. If mass immigration were legal I'd have no complaint.

    22 37.93%
  • An influx of a foreign culture threatening to marginalize American culture including language.

    19 32.76%
  • An influx of a minority group threatening to make my ethnic group the minority.

    10 17.24%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the American economy.

    31 53.45%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the treasury.

    23 39.66%
  • If fear illegal immigrants will exhibit criminal/violent behavior

    18 31.03%
  • Other. Explain

    19 32.76%
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    Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

    I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    If illegals received zero federal assistance of any sort, I would have absolutely no problems with them. They're not a threat to employment because most Americans think picking fruit is "beneath them". I don't have issues with their culture, and they tend to segregate themselves.

    If they pay taxes and don't run too afoul of the law, I say bueno to them.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    So many problems with illegal immigration. A better poll would be "Why do you support the rights conferred upon illegal immigrants? "

    The impact on the economy, although significant, is not the primary problem. The volume of illegal immigrants pose a problem of balkanization. Entitlements are given to those who cross the border and large immigrant groups tend to form neighborhoods where crime and other problems associated with low income neighborhoods proliferate.

    Balkanization occurs because immigrants no longer want to assimilate. Why would they? They live in an insular culture and are told that those who succeed are evil and the government should take care of you if only those evil white people weren't so greedy.

    Massive illegal immigration + health care and education + toxic patronage for political purposes + class warfare = Balkanization and non-assimilation.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If illegals received zero federal assistance of any sort, I would have absolutely no problems with them. They're not a threat to employment because most Americans think picking fruit is "beneath them". I don't have issues with their culture, and they tend to segregate themselves.

    If they pay taxes and don't run too afoul of the law, I say bueno to them.
    How do you pay taxes and Obamacare as an illegal? Anonymously?

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

    I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.
    None of them really fit for me. The first one is closest, since by definition, illegal immigrants are breaking the law. However, that does not mean I would support massively higher levels of legal immigration either. The solution to people breaking the law is not decriminalization so to speak.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

    I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.
    Immigration is fine for the country, if the country has enough time to smooth the irritations. The US has to adapt the people and itself. That is always difficult for complicated societies even with the historic experience of the US. That is the problem with massif migration as is presently being attempted or beginning to evolve.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    The purpose of all of the worlds nations migration/immigration laws is to keep undesiarables out (criminal, anarchist, diseased immigrants. leaches) but mostly to protected the ethnic makeup, culture, customs and language of the country,. That is the main purpose of immigration laws.

    Source: "Vattel's Laws of Nations."

    Those nations in the past who failed to enforce those simple immigration laws or regulation/restrictions are either basket cases today or no longer exist. (Roman Empire)

    It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or religion but assimilation.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

    I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.
    1.Screwing Americans out of jobs.Contrary to popular belief that illegals only pick fruit they also work in meat packing plants, construction, landscaping, hotel, restaurants, janitorial and many other low to moderately skilled jobs.

    2.Depresses wages of Americans.It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that if there is a huge line of people to do your job then you becomes less valuable and therefore your employer has no incentive to pay you more or give you raises.

    Those two things can be the result of uncontrolled or increased legal immigration too.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    choice #!, the law should be followed

    I have sympathy for people who come here illegally, but I have at least as much sympathy for the people who want to come here but don't because they can't do it legally. I had to jump through hoops to bring my ex-wife and step daughter to this country and I know someone who needed 15 years to bring his wife and daughter to the US. Amnesty shows a lack of sympathy for many people.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    None of the choices fit my opinion. Illegals do have an impact on crime in my community, but my greatest concern is the diseases once eradicated in this country that they have already re-introduced (tuberculosis being only one) and are bringing (H1N1 being only one).

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