Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

[Smeagol]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

 

[Gipper]

If illegals received zero federal assistance of any sort, I would have absolutely no problems with them. They're not a threat to employment because most Americans think picking fruit is "beneath them". I don't have issues with their culture, and they tend to segregate themselves.

If they pay taxes and don't run too afoul of the law, I say bueno to them.

 

[TobyOne]

So many problems with illegal immigration. A better poll would be "Why do you support the rights conferred upon illegal immigrants? "

The impact on the economy, although significant, is not the primary problem. The volume of illegal immigrants pose a problem of balkanization. Entitlements are given to those who cross the border and large immigrant groups tend to form neighborhoods where crime and other problems associated with low income neighborhoods proliferate.

Balkanization occurs because immigrants no longer want to assimilate. Why would they? They live in an insular culture and are told that those who succeed are evil and the government should take care of you if only those evil white people weren't so greedy.

Massive illegal immigration + health care and education + toxic patronage for political purposes + class warfare = Balkanization and non-assimilation.

 

[joG]

If illegals received zero federal assistance of any sort, I would have absolutely no problems with them. They're not a threat to employment because most Americans think picking fruit is "beneath them". I don't have issues with their culture, and they tend to segregate themselves.

If they pay taxes and don't run too afoul of the law, I say bueno to them.

How do you pay taxes and Obamacare as an illegal? Anonymously?

 

[Redress]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

None of them really fit for me. The first one is closest, since by definition, illegal immigrants are breaking the law. However, that does not mean I would support massively higher levels of legal immigration either. The solution to people breaking the law is not decriminalization so to speak.

 

[joG]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

Immigration is fine for the country, if the country has enough time to smooth the irritations. The US has to adapt the people and itself. That is always difficult for complicated societies even with the historic experience of the US. That is the problem with massif migration as is presently being attempted or beginning to evolve.

 

[APACHERAT]

The purpose of all of the worlds nations migration/immigration laws is to keep undesiarables out (criminal, anarchist, diseased immigrants. leaches) but mostly to protected the ethnic makeup, culture, customs and language of the country,. That is the main purpose of immigration laws.

Source: "Vattel's Laws of Nations."

Those nations in the past who failed to enforce those simple immigration laws or regulation/restrictions are either basket cases today or no longer exist. (Roman Empire)

It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or religion but assimilation.

 

[jamesrage]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

1.Screwing Americans out of jobs.Contrary to popular belief that illegals only pick fruit they also work in meat packing plants, construction, landscaping, hotel, restaurants, janitorial and many other low to moderately skilled jobs.

2.Depresses wages of Americans.It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that if there is a huge line of people to do your job then you becomes less valuable and therefore your employer has no incentive to pay you more or give you raises.

Those two things can be the result of uncontrolled or increased legal immigration too.

 

[mpg]

choice #!, the law should be followed

I have sympathy for people who come here illegally, but I have at least as much sympathy for the people who want to come here but don't because they can't do it legally. I had to jump through hoops to bring my ex-wife and step daughter to this country and I know someone who needed 15 years to bring his wife and daughter to the US. Amnesty shows a lack of sympathy for many people.

 

[nota bene]

None of the choices fit my opinion. Illegals do have an impact on crime in my community, but my greatest concern is the diseases once eradicated in this country that they have already re-introduced (tuberculosis being only one) and are bringing (H1N1 being only one).

 

[Josie]

One of the massive problems it's causing is overcrowded schools. State budgets for education are already dwindling away and when you add hundreds of illegal immigrant families coming into one city it's overwhelming for school districts. So because of the reduced budgets, school boards are forced to eliminate positions, create larger class sizes and then add in all the immigrants that come throughout the year. Illegal immigration is sucking the life out of our education system. We've already been told to prepare for 30+ class sizes.... in kindergarten and 1st grade.

 

[nota bene]

And hospitals that serve smaller communities that are strained beyond their capacities.

 

[Ockham]

One of the massive problems it's causing is overcrowded schools. State budgets for education are already dwindling away and when you add hundreds of illegal immigrant families coming into one city it's overwhelming for school districts. So because of the reduced budgets, school boards are forced to eliminate positions, create larger class sizes and then add in all the immigrants that come throughout the year. Illegal immigration is sucking the life out of our education system. We've already been told to prepare for 30+ class sizes.... in kindergarten and 1st grade.

Agreed. And let's look at who is paying for these people to be initially housed and shipped across the country to different towns and cities? Who is assessing the unintended consequences of these actions? When they get to wherever the government sends them - who pays for their food there? Housing? Water? Healthcare? Schooling? Entertainment? For how long? Children are reportedly sick, TB, lice, all sorts of things and they're not being kept behind in these temporary facilities until they are well....

Why isn't the law being followed or can we all just willy-nilly start ignoring laws we don't agree with? Granted the political push for this is to pressure for amnesty but I don't think that's going to happen and many people in many towns across the US are going to be left with a mess, and really, is that going to be fair for these people who are going to be left in limbo. They may be better off than they were but not when they are going to be shunned and hated for the burden they are creating for everyone else.

 

[nota bene]

And those border towns aren't rich.

 

[Gipper]

One of the massive problems it's causing is overcrowded schools. State budgets for education are already dwindling away and when you add hundreds of illegal immigrant families coming into one city it's overwhelming for school districts. So because of the reduced budgets, school boards are forced to eliminate positions, create larger class sizes and then add in all the immigrants that come throughout the year. Illegal immigration is sucking the life out of our education system. We've already been told to prepare for 30+ class sizes.... in kindergarten and 1st grade.

I don't agree that the problem is necessarily that, but the fact that most don't pay taxes, which contribute to school budgets. It creates a free rider system.

I'd really like to see a requirement of back tax information provided upon admission to public school. Your child doesn't receive American education if you cannot provide a tax history that demonstrates contribution via taxes. It could also assist in deportation, since a lack of records is a smoking gun for tax evasion - a federal crime. Those are the illegals that need to be shot from a cannon aimed down Mexico way.

 

[disneydude]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

You should have included the one you suggest...because I DO believe that is a fear of many.

Also you should have included something along the lines, I don't mind immigration of white people but when its brown people its different.

 

[Maenad]

Its private so nobody will know how you vote. I'll set it up so we can vote for multiple reasons.

I should have included the political impact of eventual new voters that could threaten the influence of my political party.

In the past, I have not had a huge problem with illegal immigration. The ones who jump the border come here to work, many are migrant workers who harvest the crops where that type work is much needed. The system absorbs them. A lot of Americans who are out of jobs don't do that type work and many will just use up their unemployment benefits rather than to seek manual labor type jobs.

But I have a HUGE problem with this wave of unaccompanied minors who are flooding across our borders. We already have enough to fill a mid size city. They are not going to contribute to this system soon if ever. I can't imagine parents who would send children in diapers to another country not knowing whether they will be safe or ever seen again. Maybe they are hoping they, too, will get to come here. But, IMO, they are guilty of child abandonment and would already be criminals if they, too, came here.

It is no secret that the US is broke. So why in the holy hell are we taking these people in. There are other countries they could go to. All they have to do is to get there.

And then there is that troublesome little item about the Harvard profession, no doubt under whom Obama studies, who thinks the white race should be eliminated. How many 'brown people' flooding in will it take to accomplish that? This may be a 'humanitarian crisis', but it was orchestrated by Obama and the US government is employing the 'escorts' to bring them here when this country has its own problems and can ill afford this. Our own citizens are becoming ill as they catch infectious diseases from them.

 

[Maenad]

If illegals received zero federal assistance of any sort, I would have absolutely no problems with them. They're not a threat to employment because most Americans think picking fruit is "beneath them". I don't have issues with their culture, and they tend to segregate themselves.

If they pay taxes and don't run too afoul of the law, I say bueno to them.

Children in diapers don't 'pick fruit.'

 

[Maenad]

How do you pay taxes and Obamacare as an illegal? Anonymously?

If illegals are not eligible for public health care, which they are not, and if they can't buy Obamacare, then who pays?

 

[Maenad]

Immigration is fine for the country, if the country has enough time to smooth the irritations. The US has to adapt the people and itself. That is always difficult for complicated societies even with the historic experience of the US. That is the problem with massif migration as is presently being attempted or beginning to evolve.

Into what?

 

[Maenad]

Agreed. And let's look at who is paying for these people to be initially housed and shipped across the country to different towns and cities? Who is assessing the unintended consequences of these actions? When they get to wherever the government sends them - who pays for their food there? Housing? Water? Healthcare? Schooling? Entertainment? For how long? Children are reportedly sick, TB, lice, all sorts of things and they're not being kept behind in these temporary facilities until they are well....

Why isn't the law being followed or can we all just willy-nilly start ignoring laws we don't agree with? Granted the political push for this is to pressure for amnesty but I don't think that's going to happen and many people in many towns across the US are going to be left with a mess, and really, is that going to be fair for these people who are going to be left in limbo. They may be better off than they were but not when they are going to be shunned and hated for the burden they are creating for everyone else.

In addition to all that, children in diapers don't belong on our military bases.

 

[Gipper]

Children in diapers don't 'pick fruit.'

Parents do.

 

[Maenad]

Parents do.

The children who are flooding in are not accompanied by parents. They are being sent here unaccompanied. It's all over the news. Please do keep up.

 

[radcen]

I didn't really have a satisfactory poll option.

Two things bother me the most. 1) That we allow it openly, regardless our rhetoric. 2) That we keep extending benefit after benefit that even citizens and legal immigrants sometimes have a hard time qualifying for.

I believe that we should increase legal immigration, and should make the process more simple and streamlined, but at the same time we should strictly enforce the prohibition against illegal immigration.

If we cannot do that, then at the least we should be conferring no benefits whatsoever. I'm ok with basic emergency medical care (I have no desire to let people die in the streets), and maybe some emergency temporary food aid, but that's it. If you're here illegally, nothing else. No divers licenses, no automatic citizenship if merely born here (Amendment needed and noted), no admission to the bar (California), none of that stuff.

 

[joG]

Into what?

Don't understand.