View Poll Results: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration

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  • I believe the law should be followed. If mass immigration were legal I'd have no complaint.

    22 37.93%
  • An influx of a foreign culture threatening to marginalize American culture including language.

    19 32.76%
  • An influx of a minority group threatening to make my ethnic group the minority.

    10 17.24%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the American economy.

    31 53.45%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the treasury.

    23 39.66%
  • If fear illegal immigrants will exhibit criminal/violent behavior

    18 31.03%
  • Other. Explain

    19 32.76%
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    mass immigration is NOW LEGAL.

    We loose 80,000 jobs EVERY MONTH to LEGAL immigrants, and millions more to illegals.

    Time to deport them all, and end ALL IMMIGRATION. Untill ALL US CITIZENS have a living wage job.

    When a criminal state like WA spends $300 million a year on foreign criminals, and does not allow a US CITIZEN
    to buy $10 in paid pills.

    ITS TIME FOR CIVIL WAR 2, AND TO KILL ALL FOREIGN CRIMINALS AND ALL THIER SUPPORTERS.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    mass immigration is NOW LEGAL.

    We loose 80,000 jobs EVERY MONTH to LEGAL immigrants, and millions more to illegals.

    Time to deport them all, and end ALL IMMIGRATION. Untill ALL US CITIZENS have a living wage job.

    When a criminal state like WA spends $300 million a year on foreign criminals, and does not allow a US CITIZEN
    to buy $10 in paid pills.

    ITS TIME FOR CIVIL WAR 2, AND TO KILL ALL FOREIGN CRIMINALS AND ALL THIER SUPPORTERS.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    I voted for two options. The first one wasn't worded perfectly, I don't exactly have a "fear" that illegals will behave criminally (outside of crimes related to their immigration status). I know the vast majority of immigrants illegal or legal are law abiding people (again if you ignore crimes related to immigration status), but unchecked illegal immigration does leave it open for criminals of all stripes to come to this nation. We have no idea if the next illegal immigrant to cross the border is the next John Wayne Gacy or just some hard working dude who wants a better life. We don't know if he's a radical terrorist, or a member of some criminal cartel, or just a flat out sociopath. With legal immigration and the ability to take a closer look at who is coming into to our country, we at least have a chance to spot some red flags to keep such undesirable people out. Some will still slip through the cracks, but its more secure than our current system.

    Secondly, I chose the economic impact. The US economy can't absorb an infinite supply of illegal immigrants who tend to be low education, low skill labor. That's the type of person we need the least in our modern economy.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post! We don't see that behavior from immigrants who come here legally! Why the government expects us to just kow-tow to lawbreakers is ridiculous and insulting. If we were to stop providing endless benefits to them, I would expect to see outrage and lots of screaming. Would they go back home; would they change their attitude that we owe them something; or would they riot because they're angry the gravy train has left the station, and they can't continue to scam the system? WTH? BTW, trafficing in children is illegal, and just about the lowest you can get to advance an agenda, IMO. :

    Greetings, ocean515.
    As I am sure you've seen before, I firmly believe the only way to stop this encouraged invasion is to eliminate the income earning possibilities, and as you wrote, the rewards they receive.

    E-Verify to protect diligent employers, punitive fines and incarceration for employers who knowingly hire illegals, no benefits to illegals, and immediate deportation. As numerous cities in Southern California have proven, the economic impact of these peasants is well known, and the rhetoric from their supports is nothing by lies.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    I voted for everything but the first one, only as I have a problem with "mass immigration" (legal or otherwise).

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    mass immigration is NOW LEGAL.

    We loose 80,000 jobs EVERY MONTH to LEGAL immigrants, and millions more to illegals.

    Time to deport them all, and end ALL IMMIGRATION. Untill ALL US CITIZENS have a living wage job.

    When a criminal state like WA spends $300 million a year on foreign criminals, and does not allow a US CITIZEN
    to buy $10 in paid pills.

    ITS TIME FOR CIVIL WAR 2, AND TO KILL ALL FOREIGN CRIMINALS AND ALL THIER SUPPORTERS.
    Please before you commence to killing...please let me know what I should do to identify myself as an America. Should I sew a flag on my clothing as a sign to patriots?


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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    As I am sure you've seen before, I firmly believe the only way to stop this encouraged invasion is to eliminate the income earning possibilities, and as you wrote, the rewards they receive.

    E-Verify to protect diligent employers, punitive fines and incarceration for employers who knowingly hire illegals, no benefits to illegals, and immediate deportation. As numerous cities in Southern California have proven, the economic impact of these peasants is well known, and the rhetoric from their supports is nothing by lies.
    I found it most interesting that the protestors managed to prevent the buses from dropping off the illegals in your State, and they had to turn around and leave. Is it a matter that there aren't enough jobs available for additional people, or is it something else? To save fuel, I personally think they should have taken them directly to Pelosi's district - she agrees with Obama on immigration, so they would have been welcomed with open arms - right? I'm sure they would!

    Now we're reading that thousands of illegal immigrants have signed up for Obamacare, and the administration doesn't know how to handle it? What did they expect? These folks are here to get all the freebies they've been promised, so they probably assume that health care is included. No wonder BHO is desperate enough to try another end-run around Congress. We shall see what happens next.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Option 1 is the best fit for my opinion. I should clarify that even though reducing illegal immigration is a noble goal that should be pursued, being an undocumented immigrant does not make a person inherently immoral. Option 2 and 3 are not genuine concerns, because one culture is not inherently superior to the other. Option 4 and 5 can be issues, but it all depends on how the economy is structured. If we create an economy that is accommodating to immigrants, it can benefit the economy, but if we are shutting them out and generating slums, that can be detrimental to the economy. I'm not really sure what option 6. But option 2 through 5 aren't applicable to illegal immigration exclusively, but to immigration as a whole.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Illegal Immigrants compete against low-skill low-education American workers for jobs. There are several reasons why unemployment is so high for urban youth, and a major one is that government has made it much cheaper to hire illegals. So mass low-level immigration of this type may be good for upper-income earners in the US (Hooray! Nanny and lawn-care prices are going down!), but it can be disastrous for low-income earners.

    Illegal Immigrants also do represent significant drains on the treasuries not only of the federal, but also the local and state governments, who must now provide basic services to them, education for their children, etc. School districts get easily swamped, and the result is a reduction in the quality of education we can give to our children.

    The fact that the immigration is illegal means that everyone who uses it by definition is choosing that they will live their life in disregard of the law. That not only makes it easier for them to violate other laws (and they are enabled in this by the fact that police districts will often not pursue them for non-violent crime), but it makes it more likely that they will be the enablers of other serious criminal activities. As a particularly poignant example of this - human smuggling networks for laborers often transition seamlessly back and forth into human smuggling for the purposes of sex slavery and the like. They also enable more serious criminal activities by diverting resources. As the current employment of our order guards suggests, everyone taking care of the illegal immigrant problem is someone who isn't chasing drug-smugglers.

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