View Poll Results: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration

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  • I believe the law should be followed. If mass immigration were legal I'd have no complaint.

    22 37.93%
  • An influx of a foreign culture threatening to marginalize American culture including language.

    19 32.76%
  • An influx of a minority group threatening to make my ethnic group the minority.

    10 17.24%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the American economy.

    31 53.45%
  • The impact of illegal immigration on the treasury.

    23 39.66%
  • If fear illegal immigrants will exhibit criminal/violent behavior

    18 31.03%
  • Other. Explain

    19 32.76%
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Agreed. And let's look at who is paying for these people to be initially housed and shipped across the country to different towns and cities? Who is assessing the unintended consequences of these actions? When they get to wherever the government sends them - who pays for their food there? Housing? Water? Healthcare? Schooling? Entertainment? For how long? Children are reportedly sick, TB, lice, all sorts of things and they're not being kept behind in these temporary facilities until they are well....

    Why isn't the law being followed or can we all just willy-nilly start ignoring laws we don't agree with? Granted the political push for this is to pressure for amnesty but I don't think that's going to happen and many people in many towns across the US are going to be left with a mess, and really, is that going to be fair for these people who are going to be left in limbo. They may be better off than they were but not when they are going to be shunned and hated for the burden they are creating for everyone else.

    In addition to all that, children in diapers don't belong on our military bases.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Children in diapers don't 'pick fruit.'
    Parents do.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Parents do.
    The children who are flooding in are not accompanied by parents. They are being sent here unaccompanied. It's all over the news. Please do keep up.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    I didn't really have a satisfactory poll option.

    Two things bother me the most. 1) That we allow it openly, regardless our rhetoric. 2) That we keep extending benefit after benefit that even citizens and legal immigrants sometimes have a hard time qualifying for.

    I believe that we should increase legal immigration, and should make the process more simple and streamlined, but at the same time we should strictly enforce the prohibition against illegal immigration.

    If we cannot do that, then at the least we should be conferring no benefits whatsoever. I'm ok with basic emergency medical care (I have no desire to let people die in the streets), and maybe some emergency temporary food aid, but that's it. If you're here illegally, nothing else. No divers licenses, no automatic citizenship if merely born here (Amendment needed and noted), no admission to the bar (California), none of that stuff.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Into what?
    Don't understand.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    The children who are flooding in are not accompanied by parents. They are being sent here unaccompanied. It's all over the news. Please do keep up.
    Well, if an unaccompanied minor crosses, they should be sent back to their parents. That's a given.

    How are small children crossing over - and when they do, how are they surviving?

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You should have included the one you suggest...because I DO believe that is a fear of many.

    Also you should have included something along the lines, I don't mind immigration of white people but when its brown people its different.
    One respected past presidential candidate essentially said that. If I recall it went something like British immigrating to American would assimilate easier than Haitians. I'm implication was British immigrations was okay but Haitian immigration was inherently problematic. I respect his honesty.
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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, if an unaccompanied minor crosses, they should be sent back to their parents. That's a given.

    How are small children crossing over - and when they do, how are they surviving?
    Well, you could just read the current news and it will answer your questions. Apparently it's not a given for this admin.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    Though the poll addresses my concerns over the economy, it does not address how livid I am over this administration not preparing for this crisis we now see ourselves dealing with. The Obama administration was forewarned over a year ago by the UN that these people were coming and it did not prepare for it nor did it send a message to the people of South America to discourage it. The crisis on the border is more proof the president isn’t enforcing existing immigration law and therefore can’t be trusted to enforce any potential overhaul. He refused to send needed resources to our borders to help handle the influx. Border patrol have been turned into babysitters and our borders have now become even more vulnerable than before. Border towns are going broke dealing with this crisis and ranchers and farmers live in fear. Prior to this influx, border patrol only caught about 25% sneaking into this country. Those they did catch were given an immigration hearing date and released. 90% of them do not show up for their immigration hearing. The percentage of youth are just about the same age as those jihad members of ISIS and overwhelmingly males. These kids have been raised in a completely different society from our own often plagued with violence and corruption and that has to play a role in who they are and how they think. This crisis far succeeds illegal immigration, it's now a full fledged National Security crisis.

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    Re: Your biggest problems with illegal immigration.

    My biggest issue with illegal mass immigration is that I believe it lowers our society as a whole. Let me explain that before someone jumps on that comment with the race card. Most who immigrate here illegally are poor and are often under educated. In my opinion those are just the type of people that we do not want to be flooding into our country. I often here about how they are only doing jobs that Americans will not do. I think those people are wrong. They are only doing jobs that Americans will not do for such a cheap price. Many industries that were once filled with American workers are now filled with illegal or first generation immigrants. Those jobs did not suddenly become to difficult for Americans but instead compensation for those jobs have remained stagnant. Employers know that an illegal and/or uneducated labor pool are going to take whatever they can get and as a result wages remain flat.

    Also the more you allow in the less likely they are to integrate into the current society. When you are a small minority it is easy to see how learning the language and customs would be beneficial. It helps you connect with society. However when your segment of society has grown enough you no longer need to integrate into the old system so many do not bother. As we have seen some instances of in recent years some expect us to conform to them. I am sorry but this bothers me, they moved into my back yard I did not move into theirs. If anyone should conform it should be them.

    The town I live in, Sedalia Missouri, Tyson Foods built a processing facility some years ago. As a result the local area has seen a huge influx of illegal immigration. I am not implying that Tysons is hiring illegal employees but many of them are the relative of those employed by Tyson Foods. As is common among many immigrant families one will come here and find a job, they will then save up and send money back to their families so that they can afford to send another member (generally illegally) to the US. They repeat this process many times until the entire family now resides here. Our schools and local facilities have been financially pinched with the influx of new children most of which have parents who pay little or no income tax.

    Not only do they keep (along with business exploration) wages in many unskilled industries flat but they place a greater burden on social services that they rest of us pay for. True many government funded programs are barred to illegal immigrates but they are NOT barred from the children of those immigrants who are born here. Many being in low income families do receive government assistance. Now I am not blaming the children here but immigrants know that if they come here and have children that the government will subsidize their families lives and in many cases giving them a life better then what they left.

    So on the end when you have a population that is uneducated, not willing/reluctant to integrate into society, and rely heavily on public services I feel it brings our society down as a whole. I think we find plenty of ways to harm our own society without introducing tens of millions of other people to hasten it along.

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