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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not the same as "choosing". Pretty much the only "choice" in the matter is to choose from what is offered or not work at all. Choosing from what is offered is not always optimal, good, or even mildly decent. It's like choosing Crap A or Crap B.

    When people make this point they act as if jobs offers are the proverbial low-hanging fruit that is both plentiful and sweet, and it's not that way at all for the vast majority of people.
    My post was simple. Nobody is forced to work for a Muslim-owned company because nobody is forced to work anywhere. That has nothing to do with unemployment or a weak job market.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My post was simple. Nobody is forced to work for a Muslim-owned company because nobody is forced to work anywhere. That has nothing to do with unemployment or a weak job market.
    Well, that's easy to say, but when health care is so inexorably tied to employment (which, IMHO, it never should have been), then sometimes people are "forced," considering the alternative.
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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If an employer believes in Sharia Law should they be allowed to impose Sharia law on its employees?
    If the Supreme Court says that churches can ignore the law of the land and impose its own law on its employees, why not Sharia law?

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well, that's easy to say, but when health care is so inexorably tied to employment (which, IMHO, it never should have been), then sometimes people are "forced," considering the alternative.
    Note that this is a huge advantage of the ACA, which of course is the most horrible piece of legislation evah.
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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well, that's easy to say, but when health care is so inexorably tied to employment (which, IMHO, it never should have been), then sometimes people are "forced," considering the alternative.
    Forced to work isn't the same thing as being forced to work for a specific employer.

    I have to work because we wouldn't live as well on Mr. B's salary alone, and at one time his employer's benefits sucked ass. But I wasn't forced to work for a specific employer.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricatalian View Post
    If the Supreme Court says that churches can ignore the law of the land and impose its own law on its employees, why not Sharia law?
    What law is Hobby Lobby forcing on its employees?

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricatalian View Post
    If the Supreme Court says that churches can ignore the law of the land and impose its own law on its employees, why not Sharia law?
    Because there still are limits. For instance, Hobby Lobby cannot make you participate in lent and not eat meat at work. The same would go for Sharia law, they cannot make you participate in religious activities.

    Remember the decision is simply they won't pay for certain contraceptives, not that they don't allow you to use them.

    I don't agree with the decision simply because Hobby Lobby is cherry picking which religious rules it will follow and ignores others. For example, they have no problem buying products from countries that have state sanctioned abortions such as China. They are hypocritical in what "rules" they will follow and which ones they won't.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What law is Hobby Lobby forcing on its employees?
    when you are denied the protection of a law by an employer, and the court says that's O.K., then you're operating under a different law ...

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricatalian View Post
    when you are denied the protection of a law by an employer, and the court says that's O.K., then you're operating under a different law ...
    The employees have the same access to those 4 forms of birth control as they did 2 weeks ago.

    Obama should have known about both RFRA and the First Amendment when he & HHS added that provision to the law. It isn't HL's fault. It's Obama's & HHS' faults.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Because there still are limits. For instance, Hobby Lobby cannot make you participate in lent and not eat meat at work. The same would go for Sharia law, they cannot make you participate in religious activities.

    Remember the decision is simply they won't pay for certain contraceptives, not that they don't allow you to use them.

    I don't agree with the decision simply because Hobby Lobby is cherry picking which religious rules it will follow and ignores others. For example, they have no problem buying products from countries that have state sanctioned abortions such as China. They are hypocritical in what "rules" they will follow and which ones they won't.
    this may have opened the door to a big mess ... but, ironically, it may have helped Democrats for 2016, maybe even 2014 ... Hopefully Democrats will use it and use it effectively ...

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