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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    It was a couple sentences! What'd you expect, a three paragraph speech on why I support the inclusion of more free market principles in order to bring in more foreign businesses, therefore reversing the unfortunate trend of outsourcing jobs that has caused so much damage to our economy and middle class?
    I would expect a single example of "more free market principles," or an example of a regulation that should be removed.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Aside from the mentally and physically challenged...why cant they get jobs? And I dont mean to disrespect the challenged....because they also manage to get jobs.
    Because you can't get a job that doesn't exist? It's a pretty simple comparison to make. BLS has a report of job openings and the number of unemployed. A is the number of job openings. B is the number of unemployed. If B is greater than A, not everyone can have a job.

    edit: in before "just start your own business!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because you can't get a job that doesn't exist? It's a pretty simple comparison to make. BLS has a report of job openings and the number of unemployed. A is the number of job openings. B is the number of unemployed. If B is greater than A, not everyone can have a job.

    edit: in before "just start your own business!"
    Hmm. Pretty sure that's not the case for retail. Lots of jobs....there are plenty of those job openings....why cant people get those jobs? Retail is hiring all the time.
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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Yes. In this country, such an employer would not be in business for long as they would likely not have a workforce. If they have one willing to accept their boss's rules in order to make a living, so be it. Laws don't need to handle issues that the free market can easily solve.
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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I would expect a single example of "more free market principles," or an example of a regulation that should be removed.
    Well, Deuce, if that's even your real name, here's an article about one law in California that severely impacts housing construction in California. It's from 2012, but it's the first thing to come up while I was looking for something I could cite.

    Wendell Cox: California Declares War on Suburbia - WSJ
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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because you can't get a job that doesn't exist? It's a pretty simple comparison to make. BLS has a report of job openings and the number of unemployed. A is the number of job openings. B is the number of unemployed. If B is greater than A, not everyone can have a job.
    The very same BLS reports that two million Americans quit their jobs every month.

    People can do work that is not necessarily counted as a "job opening." Technically they've done so for millions of years.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Hmm. Pretty sure that's not the case for retail. Lots of jobs....there are plenty of those job openings....why cant people get those jobs? Retail is hiring all the time.
    Uhh, math. There are more unemployed than job openings. Period. In fact, this issue is particularly true of retail or fast food jobs, because virtually everyone is qualified for those positions. When McDonald's did their national hiring day, they hired ~60,000 people. They received a million applications. I suppose those other 940,000 people are just lazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticRep View Post
    Yes. In this country, such an employer would not be in business for long as they would likely not have a workforce. If they have one willing to accept their boss's rules in order to make a living, so be it. Laws don't need to handle issues that the free market can easily solve.
    A primary failing of libertarianism is not realizing just how comically deviated from reality such statements are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Well, Deuce, if that's even your real name, here's an article about one law in California that severely impacts housing construction in California. It's from 2012, but it's the first thing to come up while I was looking for something I could cite.

    Wendell Cox: California Declares War on Suburbia - WSJ
    Unidentified research shows high housing costs are a main reason for leaving California. Implies that this is entirely due to costly regulation, but ignores their ridiculous population density. Then the article goes on and on about planned regulations. As in, not actually implemented. Regulations that would push towards high density, low-cost housing.

    An interesting choice of articles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The very same BLS reports that two million Americans quit their jobs every month.

    People can do work that is not necessarily counted as a "job opening." Technically they've done so for millions of years.
    Yes, this is true. Two million people quit, and more than two million people start working a new job. The net effect is that we're currently (slowly) growing the workforce. That still doesn't solve the underlying issue. There aren't enough jobs to go around. Yes, people can do other work, but it's not likely to be steady or reliable. Nor particularly lucrative. A few will be successful at it, the majority will not. Another prime failing of libertarians is conflating "anyone can succeed" with "everyone can succeed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, this is true. Two million people quit, and more than two million people start working a new job.
    And that happens, on average, every single month. So it seems there is somewhat of a rotation.

    There aren't enough jobs to go around. Yes, people can do other work, but it's not likely to be steady or reliable. Nor particularly lucrative. A few will be successful at it, the majority will not. Another prime failing of libertarians is conflating "anyone can succeed" with "everyone can succeed."
    Not everyone can succeed, I am the first to admit. Even if government were to offer them a "job" (note the quotation marks), some still won't succeed. There is no possible way to ensure everyone will succeed. What happens when government ensures a certain level of consumption among those who cannot succeed is that it only temporarily (until the next welfare check) maintains their status quo while ensuring that the producers (typically for-profit corporations) maintain their status quo.

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    No, but you can't make them serve bacon at lunch.
    Bacon air freshener could kill their business plan?

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    Re: If an Employer Believes In Sharia Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Bacon air freshener could kill their business plan?
    Please tell me that's not a thing.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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