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Impeach Obama?[W:249]
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Re: Impeach Obama?
I personally don't care what color he is either, but to think impeaching him won't set the Democrats off on a "racist" rant is naive. Of course we're un-advanced as a society. We're a few drinks and insults away from bashing each other over the heads with clubs wearing loin cloths. What I'm bringing to the table is a sense of realistic political consequences for impeaching him, (even if it were possible which it isn't), as well as a practical view of the human nature. If you don't want to acknowledge that - that's on you.
MLK's teachings are irrelevant in this particular case. The Democrats will use an impeachment to scream racism to further the divide and you know it.
You don't seem to understand the definition of "racist". He isn't yet destroying America but he is eroding it's foundation as it applies to the Executive Branch of government, therefore, it's best to let him do what he is going to do. You also don't seem to get that a majority of American's voted for Obama - even though their votes don't elect him, it was a majority two times. That tells me that American's are getting what they deserve in Obama, and rightly they should.
I personally don't care what color he is either, but to think impeaching him won't set the Democrats off on a "racist" rant is naive. Of course we're un-advanced as a society. We're a few drinks and insults away from bashing each other over the heads with clubs wearing loin cloths. What I'm bringing to the table is a sense of realistic political consequences for impeaching him, (even if it were possible which it isn't), as well as a practical view of the human nature. If you don't want to acknowledge that - that's on you.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
Biden is more competent than Obama and I don't think Biden is as corrupt as Obama.
Biden is more competent than Obama and I don't think Biden is as corrupt as Obama.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
Shame on all of you who voted No.
Shame on all of you who voted No.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
Yes, shame on all those people that realize you do not hold the secret "impeachment key" :lamo
Told ya.
Yes, shame on all those people that realize you do not hold the secret "impeachment key" :lamo
Told ya.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
:roll:
more hyperpartisan drivel. when it's a Republican president, the hyperpartisans on the left threaten to leave the country. when the president is a Democrat, it's impeachment and secession nonsense. it has ruined politics to the point where i'm having trouble caring. on top of that, both sides pretty much suck, and there is no one i can vote for who is really advocating for the direction i want America to go.
here's an idea : if you don't like the president, then run a candidate who is appealing this time. if you do that, you might have a chance at winning, and then you don't have to threaten to secede, come up with half baked impeachment schemes, or spend all of your free time venting partisan rage.
pretty much what we want is to be able to earn enough money to not be horribly and constantly in debt just paying for necessary stuff like health bills, food, gas, and sending our kids to college. we also would like a bit of job security and to not get royally and unjustly ****ed by our employers because they paid politicians for favorable legislation that kicks a lot of workers square in the ass. we also don't want to be constantly at war.
this **** is not difficult. run a guy (or woman) who actually cares about building the economy from the bottom or middle up rather than the top down stuff that we have tried multiple times. that's how you win, not all of this other nonsense. ****, the Republicans have a pretty good chance in the next cycle due to the fact that we will have had eight years of a Democrat president. that leads to fatigue, and is an advantage for the other side.
and until then, cut out the impeachment bull****. it will never happen, it's not worth your time, and it makes your side look really bad to independents and moderates. and yeah, you need those votes, too.
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more hyperpartisan drivel. when it's a Republican president, the hyperpartisans on the left threaten to leave the country. when the president is a Democrat, it's impeachment and secession nonsense. it has ruined politics to the point where i'm having trouble caring. on top of that, both sides pretty much suck, and there is no one i can vote for who is really advocating for the direction i want America to go.
here's an idea : if you don't like the president, then run a candidate who is appealing this time. if you do that, you might have a chance at winning, and then you don't have to threaten to secede, come up with half baked impeachment schemes, or spend all of your free time venting partisan rage.
pretty much what we want is to be able to earn enough money to not be horribly and constantly in debt just paying for necessary stuff like health bills, food, gas, and sending our kids to college. we also would like a bit of job security and to not get royally and unjustly ****ed by our employers because they paid politicians for favorable legislation that kicks a lot of workers square in the ass. we also don't want to be constantly at war.
this **** is not difficult. run a guy (or woman) who actually cares about building the economy from the bottom or middle up rather than the top down stuff that we have tried multiple times. that's how you win, not all of this other nonsense. ****, the Republicans have a pretty good chance in the next cycle due to the fact that we will have had eight years of a Democrat president. that leads to fatigue, and is an advantage for the other side.
and until then, cut out the impeachment bull****. it will never happen, it's not worth your time, and it makes your side look really bad to independents and moderates. and yeah, you need those votes, too.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
No.
The chance of actually impeaching and removing him are slim to none imho. So the damage to the country both financially and productivity wise due to the proceedings, as well as civily due to the significant furthering of the partisan divide it would cause, is no where near worth the risk compared to the very, very unlikely reward.
Add to this that the standing to impeach him are far from slam dunk, and potentially set up trouble precedent for future presidents, and I just can't see it being feasible based on anything provable he's done to this point.
No.
The chance of actually impeaching and removing him are slim to none imho. So the damage to the country both financially and productivity wise due to the proceedings, as well as civily due to the significant furthering of the partisan divide it would cause, is no where near worth the risk compared to the very, very unlikely reward.
Add to this that the standing to impeach him are far from slam dunk, and potentially set up trouble precedent for future presidents, and I just can't see it being feasible based on anything provable he's done to this point.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
I'm no fan of Obama's, as many will attest, but the man isn't corrupt - he's incredibly arrogant which is based solely on ego because he's also incredibly incompetent, but that doesn't make him corrupt. He's simply trying to stretch the limits of Presidential power and it's the job of Congress, the courts, and the American people to keep him in check.
He doesn't deserve to be removed from office for those reasons - he should never have been elected and after his first term, he never should have been reelected. Remarkably, a recent poll claims that 45% to 37%, the American people believe the US would be better off now if Romney had won the 2012 election. Six years in, it's remarkable that 37% still think Obama is doing a good job. Based on that, there should be a provision to impeach the American voter.
I'm no fan of Obama's, as many will attest, but the man isn't corrupt - he's incredibly arrogant which is based solely on ego because he's also incredibly incompetent, but that doesn't make him corrupt. He's simply trying to stretch the limits of Presidential power and it's the job of Congress, the courts, and the American people to keep him in check.
He doesn't deserve to be removed from office for those reasons - he should never have been elected and after his first term, he never should have been reelected. Remarkably, a recent poll claims that 45% to 37%, the American people believe the US would be better off now if Romney had won the 2012 election. Six years in, it's remarkable that 37% still think Obama is doing a good job. Based on that, there should be a provision to impeach the American voter.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
I'm one of the least of Obama's policy and presidency fans (ask around DP, they'll tell ya) but it's still "no".
I'm one of the least of Obama's policy and presidency fans (ask around DP, they'll tell ya) but it's still "no".
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Biden must be a yes man.
Well, if Biden wasn't a yes man, Obama would have purged Biden.
Funny that Biden ran for the Democrat Presidential nomination two or three times and was never able to get more than 1% of his own party's vote. :lamo
Obama said back in late 2008, judge me by the people I surround myself with.
All I have seen in the past 5 1/2 years is an incompetent administration with way too many liars.
Biden must be a yes man.
Well, if Biden wasn't a yes man, Obama would have purged Biden.
Funny that Biden ran for the Democrat Presidential nomination two or three times and was never able to get more than 1% of his own party's vote. :lamo
Obama said back in late 2008, judge me by the people I surround myself with.
All I have seen in the past 5 1/2 years is an incompetent administration with way too many liars.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
The GOP can keep having wet dreams, but this isn't going to happen.
Obama will be in the White House until Hillary Clinton or another Democrat takes his place.
Deal with it.
The GOP can keep having wet dreams, but this isn't going to happen.
Obama will be in the White House until Hillary Clinton or another Democrat takes his place.
Deal with it.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
Congress would have better success in building a rocket than formulating salient Articles of Impeachment of BHO II.
Congress would have better success in building a rocket than formulating salient Articles of Impeachment of BHO II.
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Re: Impeach Obama?
You mean the same congress who most of the members on the right believes compromise is a bad word. The same congress who openly said that their main objective is to get Obama out of office? The same congress who most of the righties believes he is not a citizen?
Its election time. Who on the right is going to commit political suicide and actually try to work with the president?
Let get real here...
You mean the same congress who most of the members on the right believes compromise is a bad word. The same congress who openly said that their main objective is to get Obama out of office? The same congress who most of the righties believes he is not a citizen?
Its election time. Who on the right is going to commit political suicide and actually try to work with the president?
Let get real here...
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Re: Impeach Obama?
No thanks haymarket, we have had enough dog and pony shows now. :2wave:
No thanks haymarket, we have had enough dog and pony shows now. :2wave:
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Re: Impeach Obama?
You really, really want Biden for prez don't you, come'on, admit it! :lol:
You really, really want Biden for prez don't you, come'on, admit it! :lol:
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Re: Impeach Obama?
What are you on about? I was responding to your own foaming at the lips post, that's why I quoted it above my response.
I've made it clear I don't believe impeachment is a sound move at this time, but that does not mean your messiah hasn't merited it.
What are you on about? I was responding to your own foaming at the lips post, that's why I quoted it above my response.
I've made it clear I don't believe impeachment is a sound move at this time, but that does not mean your messiah hasn't merited it.
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NO NO NO - let em do it. I can think of little that will turn the public against the right wing Republicans other than a stupid impeachment trial on trumped up politicized charges. the American people will smell a rat and it will hurt the GOP in 2016.
NO NO NO - let em do it. I can think of little that will turn the public against the right wing Republicans other than a stupid impeachment trial on trumped up politicized charges. the American people will smell a rat and it will hurt the GOP in 2016.