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Thread: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It is my responsibilty to prove that your "team" is playing sleazy, low-ball politics on immigration--see Reagan.
    I don't have a team. I'm Independent. And Reagan has nothing to do with what is going on right now. Indeed, not only has he not been president for over a decade the man is dead. You made a claim that we are responsible for the laws in other countries. Either back it up or admit that you're wrong.

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    Congrats on being part of the divide America krew, just because of their hatred of Obama.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Drama queen much!
    Nope, statement of fact since you apparently think I should know the bill.

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    Yet you continue to be obtuse on the existence of a Senate bill on immigration passed last year.
    Why is that Kal?
    Saying that I have no idea what bill you're talking about multiple times is being obtuse? When are you going to provide a link for this bill?

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    Yet it has passed the Senate and you're saying it hasn't while admitting you don't know anything about it.
    We call that lying where I come from .
    Sorry, meant House. That is what you said wasn't it? That the House wouldn't even look at it?

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    You don't even know what law was passed last year by the Senate that the House won't look at--you've got work to do to get caught up Sir .
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Yes, I agree However, the Latin American cartels aren't supplying Germany with illegal drugs.
    I should clarify that when I said. "...the same vices even", I meant many have the same vices but some have different vices, hence every society has their vice, whatever it may be.

    Germans have their vices, too, just maybe not in Latin America's market. Doesn't change my overall point, though.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I should clarify that when I said. "...the same vices even", I meant many have the same vices but some have different vices, hence every society has their vice, whatever it may be.

    Germans have their vices, too, just maybe not in Latin America's market. Doesn't change my overall point, though.
    I agree but if our particular vices have made Latin Americans living peacefully in their own homes I wondering do we have a duty to either help make their homes livable again or offer them new homes is all I was asking.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    We do not owe anybody anything. No one makes them traffic in drugs. They make that decision on their own.
    It doesn't help we help them traffic.


    Mexican official: CIA 'manages' drug trade - Features - Al Jazeera English


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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    No. We do not "owe" it to them. We may choose to offer them increased immigration out of a desire to help them, but they do not have a right to demand it of us.

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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I agree but if our particular vices have made Latin Americans living peacefully in their own homes I wondering do we have a duty to either help make their homes livable again or offer them new homes is all I was asking.
    It's not only our vices but our policies and direct involvement. See my post above. Unless we stand up and do something about certain agencies and what they really do, how can anyone sit here and say we are uninvolved? They really need to read up on the history of the drug trade.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Yes, I agree However, the Latin American cartels aren't supplying Germany with illegal drugs.
    Sure. And Afghan farmers aren't supplying America with Heroin. Cause, you know, drug dealers are afraid of the water....


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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure. And Afghan farmers aren't supplying America with Heroin. Cause, you know, drug dealers are afraid of the water....

    And how is that so, cause it sure ain't the farmers doing the trafficking:

    The Spoils of War: Afghanistan’s Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade | Global Research

    Heroin is a multibillion dollar business supported by powerful interests, which requires a steady and secure commodity flow. One of the “hidden” objectives of the war was precisely to restore the CIA sponsored drug trade to its historical levels and exert direct control over the drug routes.
    How Opium is Keeping US in Afghanistan: CIA’s Shady History of Drug Trafficking | MEDIA ROOTS

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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I was watching a report this morning on the influx of illegal immigrants. They interviewed one lady who said the reason she and her children entered America was to escape the danger of living in her own country that is now controlled by drug cartels. It dawned on me, the drug cartels exist because of the American market and demand for illegal drugs. A huge often unspoken cause of the illegal immigration problem is possibly American-made; our demand for illegal drugs that have made their country uninhabitable due to the organized crime culture that now exists in their country. If American vices have inadvertently created a drug cartel controlled war zone in their country, do we have a moral obligation to offer the otherwise law abiding citizens of those affected countries sanctuary as refugees?
    Why did you phrase your question differently from the thread title?
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