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Thread: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I was watching a report this morning on the influx of illegal immigrants. They interviewed one lady who said the reason she and her children entered America was to escape the danger of living in her own country that is now controlled by drug cartels. It dawned on me, the drug cartels exist because of the American market and demand for illegal drugs. A huge often unspoken cause of the illegal immigration problem is possibly American-made; our demand for illegal drugs that have made their country uninhabitable due to the organized crime culture that now exists in their country. If American vices have inadvertently created a drug cartel controlled war zone in their country, do we have a moral obligation to offer the otherwise law abiding citizens of those affected countries sanctuary as refugees?

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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why don't you prove that we don't vote for other countrie's laws, since you finally quoted someone Kal.
    Can't prove a negative. Didn't you know that? Besides, you made a claim, it's your responsibility to back up your claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm getting tired of your lame "no amnesty" response to everything immigration without any solutions, just strawmen.
    You obviously have not read all my posts on the subject...or you just ignore them. I've come up with lots of solutions. And guess what? Not one of them mention deportation.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You don't even know what law was passed last year by the Senate that the House won't look at--you've got work to do to get caught up Sir .
    Sorry for having a life outside of politics. I don't get newsletters from all those politicians in the Senate/Congress about each and every single bill. And by the by...if it hasn't even passed the senate, what good is it?
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    These are the same ugly anti-immigration attitudes led by the KKK in the 1920's.
    The same KKK that is now firmly entrenched in the Republican party.

    The same anti-immigration attitudes against southern Europeans in the late 1800's.
    And yes, it was the same discriminating Republican party then also.

    Not to mention how these Republicans treate Native Americans in the 2nd half of the 19th Century .
    Hyperbole much? Most people that are against illegal aliens have absolutely no problem with LEGAL immigration.

    And by the way...nice godwin!
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Hyperbole much?
    NO...
    Most people that are against illegal aliens have absolutely no problem with LEGAL immigration.
    Complete and total strawman.

    And by the way...nice godwin!
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    Godwin would be like noting a person lives in the middle of the Aryan Nation as you do and saying you're just like them on Amnesty .
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry for having a life outside of politics.
    Drama queen much!
    I don't get newsletters from all those politicians in the Senate/Congress about each and every single bill.
    Yet you continue to be obtuse on the existence of a Senate bill on immigration passed last year.
    Why is that Kal?
    And by the by...if it hasn't even passed the senate, what good is it?
    Yet it has passed the Senate and you're saying it hasn't while admitting you don't know anything about it.
    We call that lying where I come from .
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not one of them mention deportation.
    All I've seen from you is "NO Amnesty".
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Can't prove a negative. Didn't you know that? Besides, you made a claim, it's your responsibility to back up your claim.
    It is my responsibilty to prove that your "team" is playing sleazy, low-ball politics on immigration--see Reagan.
    Congrats on being part of the divide America krew, just because of their hatred of Obama.
    Your side has set precedence of how "we" will behave if you Republicans ever have the Prez again.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I was watching a report this morning on the influx of illegal immigrants. They interviewed one lady who said the reason she and her children entered America was to escape the danger of living in her own country that is now controlled by drug cartels. It dawned on me, the drug cartels exist because of the American market and demand for illegal drugs. A huge often unspoken cause of the illegal immigration problem is possibly American-made; our demand for illegal drugs that have made their country uninhabitable due to the organized crime culture that now exists in their country. If American vices have inadvertently created a drug cartel controlled war zone in their country, do we have a moral obligation to offer the otherwise law abiding citizens of those affected countries sanctuary as refugees?
    We do not owe anybody anything. No one makes them traffic in drugs. They make that decision on their own.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    NO...
    You're comparing those against illegal aliens to the KKK. Which is just like Comparing Bush or Obama to Hitler.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Complete and total strawman.
    We're talking about illegal immigration and the drug cartels in this thread and yet you pop in spouting off how those that are "anti-immigration" (in your eyes) are just like the KKK. The strawman is on your part when you bring such garbage into a thread about illegal immigration. Now if I'm misunderstanding what you're saying then I apologize. But if you don't want to be misinterpreted perhaps you shouldn't use such generalities.
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    Re: Does the US owe otherwise law abiding Latin Americans sancuary from druglords?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    All I've seen from you is "NO Amnesty".
    Then perhaps you should read more of my posts?
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