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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?
    • 1st
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    • 16th
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    • Other (Please elaborate)
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    This poll presumes the reader/participant is at least minimally educated and knows which Amendments are which.

    You may vote for more than one, as some people feel that several should be repealed.
    I picked other.I would reword section 1 of the 14th amendment to only apply to the children of citizens like the authors intended.


    The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the dangerous misinterpretation of the birthright citizenship clause - DA King - the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship -
    Before its ratification in 1868, Michigan's Senator Jacob Howard, author of the citizenship clause, made the intent crystal clear to the Senate: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include all other classes of persons."
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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I picked other.I would reword section 1 of the 14th amendment to only apply to the children of citizens like the authors intended.


    The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the dangerous misinterpretation of the birthright citizenship clause - DA King - the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship -
    Before its ratification in 1868, Michigan's Senator Jacob Howard, author of the citizenship clause, made the intent crystal clear to the Senate: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include all other classes of persons."
    I would favor an amendment that stipulates that for a person to be a citizen that one of their biological parents must already be a citizen.
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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    16th amendment - There isn't a single Republican welfare state in the union who would go for repealing the 16th amendment. You think Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Alaska would try and repeal the one amendment that ensures their states don't look like Tajikistan? It's far more likely that the mostly Democrat states which carry the country would want to repeal it. To the chagrin of Republican welfare queens like Bobby Jindal's Louisiana.

    Its not like tax system couldn't be simplified. But by all means make the US tax payer bear the responsibility of costs associated with the IRS.

    Government overhead and administrative costs in 2010: $12,400,000,000. A drop in the bucket to big government liberals.

    One can only imagine what the full burden of government on the well-being of society might be. In our analysis we estimate that U.S. taxpayers pay $431.1 billion annually, or 30 percent of total income taxes collected, just to comply with and administer the U.S. income tax system.*
    This cost estimate includes:
    • Approximately $31.5 billion in direct outlays (e.g. paying a professional tax preparer such as H&R Block or purchasing tax soft ware) (2010 data).
    • Total IRS administrative costs of $12.4 billion (2010 data).
    • The Taxpayer Advocacy Service of the IRS estimates that individuals and businesses also spent 6.1 billion hours complying with the filing requirements of the U.S. income tax code. We estimate the dollar value or cost of these hours to be $377.9 billion as of 2008. The 6.1 billion hours number was estimated by multiplying the number of copies of each form filed in tax year 2008 by the average amount of time the IRS estimated it took to complete the form.
    • Individuals spent 3.16 billion hours complying with the income tax code, which weighted by time spent by income group, costs the U.S. economy $216.2 billion annually.
    • Businesses spent 2.94 billion complying with the business income tax code, which costs the U.S. econo-my $161.7 billion.
    • Comprehensive audits also impose an additional taxpayer burden of at least $9.3 billion annually.
    http://www.laffercenter.com/wp-conte...Complexity.pdf
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    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    5th and 8th.

    Criminals deserve no right to silence. The need to punish is or at lest should be unusual and punishment is never effective without some level of cruelty.
    So people suspected of a crime are guilty until proven innocent?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So people suspected of a crime are guilty until proven innocent?
    that is the standard conservatives use to condemn obama.
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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    They are not yet "convicted" criminals. If however, they have committed a crime, then they are indeed a criminal.
    You don't read someone their rights after they are convicted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    that is the standard conservatives use to condemn obama.
    When is he going to trial?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Generalizations are stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Chemical interrogation is unreliable and people can be trained to "fool" it. And no, it is not there for criminals to hide behind. Yes they can hide behind it, but that is not and never was its intention.



    Except that you have to prove that someone is a criminal, and by then all of your points are moot as the 5th is no longer useable. You are advocating a system where people are guilty until proven innocent. Such a system was used for centuries and is easily abused. I much prefer the system of innocent until proven guilty.



    Just because criminals can be barbarians does not mean that we have to act like criminals ourselves. And no, the China analogy is not flawed as that is a part of their punishment.
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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    5th and 8th.

    Criminals deserve no right to silence.
    Alleged criminals certainly do.

    EDIT: I see other people have beaten me to this point.
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    Re: Which Constitutional Amendments, if any, should be repealed?

    The 14th, but just Sec 1 & 4
    16th
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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