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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You didn't really answer the question, so the above isn't really relevant.
    You didn't phrase your response in a question, so his irrelevence is irrelevent.
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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    My company is on a big diversity kick lately. I believe the main reason companies strive for a diverse workforce is because it makes them look good. But that's not the message that they try to pass off to us (obviously).

    So do you think that diversity offers a company benefits beyond making them look good? Do you think a diverse workforce works better/smarter/harder/more efficiently/etc. than one made up of the best qualified people regardless of demographics?
    What kind of diversity are they looking for? Racial? Irrelevant; we're all Americans. Sex? Again irrelevant; it should be based on the best person for the job. Religious? Again irrelevant; we're not supposed to bring religion into our jobs, unless we work for a religious group. Sexual orientation? Again irrelevant; a company's product or service shouldn't have anything to do with what happens in people's bedrooms, unless you're selling a sexually-based product.

    A business should hire the person who can do the best job, regardless of skin color, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

    "Image" to whom exactly? In my line of business, nobody is buying our services and products because of anyone's skin color or sexual orientation. They are buying our services and products because they are the best fit for our customers' business models and go to market strategies.

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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What kind of diversity are they looking for? Racial? Irrelevant; we're all Americans. Sex? Again irrelevant; it should be based on the best person for the job. Religious? Again irrelevant; we're not supposed to bring religion into our jobs, unless we work for a religious group. Sexual orientation? Again irrelevant; a company's product or service shouldn't have anything to do with what happens in people's bedrooms, unless you're selling a sexually-based product.

    A business should hire the person who can do the best job, regardless of skin color, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

    "Image" to whom exactly? In my line of business, nobody is buying our services and products because of anyone's skin color or sexual orientation. They are buying our services and products because they are the best fit for our customers' business models and go to market strategies.
    Based on the things I've seen posted around the office, it seems like they're mainly talking about diversity of race, sex, and national origin.
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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Diversity is great if it occurs naturally, but government enforced segregation and government enforced diversity are responsible for a lot of societal ills. However, race isn't relevant to whether or not someone is going to do a job better or worse. In fact, Affirmative Action is partially responsible for continued existence of racism. Many people are resentful towards minority groups because they get special treatment.

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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Diversity is great if it occurs naturally, but government enforced segregation and government enforced diversity are responsible for a lot of societal ills. However, race isn't relevant to whether or not someone is going to do a job better or worse. In fact, Affirmative Action is partially responsible for continued existence of racism. Many people are resentful towards minority groups because they get special treatment.
    Another person who doesn't know what Affirmative Action is.

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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    If diversity is a valid qualification for a given job, sure.
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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Another person who doesn't know what Affirmative Action is.
    What is that supposed to mean? I recognize a company choosing to be diverse on its own isn't affirmative action, but since the topic was about diversity, I thought it would be on topic to bring it up.

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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    My company is on a big diversity kick lately. I believe the main reason companies strive for a diverse workforce is because it makes them look good. But that's not the message that they try to pass off to us (obviously).

    So do you think that diversity offers a company benefits beyond making them look good? Do you think a diverse workforce works better/smarter/harder/more efficiently/etc. than one made up of the best qualified people regardless of demographics?
    I believe diversity is essential to a productive work environment, however I define it as a diversity that is measured by perspective, not diversity in color, race or sex.
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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    If diversity is beneficial I have seen any evidence of this.

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    Re: Is diversity beneficial outside of image?

    The problem with diversity is that it's used in all the wrong ways and the PC police and the progressive movement have managed to turn this otherwise good word into a tool for oppression.

    What is more diverse?

    An ethnically homogenous group formed out of people who have different professions and different life experiences (1 policeman, 1 fireman, 1 teacher, 1 doctor, etc) or an multi-ethnic group all of the same experience (all of them are firemen but one is asian, one is white, one is native american, one is latino, one is black etc). If you believe that race is just skin-deep, a superficial determination, a social construct as the most idiotic of people would say despite the fact that they don't know or can't explain what that is, then surely the benefit from having a multi-ethnic group is also superficial. Because the differences are superficial.

    But lets talk about companies. What is the benefit of hiring a black programmer, a white programmer and an asian programmer, all who program in the same language, say, C++. What would be the benefit? You hire these people simply because they know C++ to an acceptable degree and because you have to fill racial quotas. Why not hire 3 blacks or 3 whites or 3 asians or 3 latinos or any combination to get the job done based on the skill level. So if 3 whites came out on top, you hire them. If 2 whites and an asian came out on top, you hire them. If 3 latinos came out on top, you hire them. Racial quotas and affirmative action is bad.

    Point is. Are racial differences superficial? If yes, then the benefit of a racially diverse group is also superficial and everything that is superficial is not worth investing in.
    Are racial differences not superficial? are they more than just skin color? Then... ofc, if you believe that, you'd be called a racist.

    So the progressive movement and the PC police that supports these ideologies are alive and well simply because people haven't dedicated 30min to think about this. I know it seems trivial but simple logic will result in this conclusion. And the more you think about it, the more it makes sense. It's not that hard.

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