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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you did not suggest military action to save you a couple bucks at the pump?
    A couple of bucks Its already $4. here and rising every day and the oil fields in Iraq have not even been involved yet. Your president screwed up big time face it.
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It would be hard not to believe it. I don't think Obama should have set a red line, but in this case it produced results. Credit where credit is due.
    according to Obama.. he didn't set a red line...the world did.

    I give credit where credit is due... but I don't give unilateral credit when there was a massive international effort in place, though.

    everyone played their parts.. Obama, Congress, Putin, the UN, etc
    if Obama went at it alone, he'd be laughed at by Assad.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    A couple of bucks Its already $4. here and rising every day and the oil fields in Iraq have not even been involved yet. Your president screwed up big time face it.
    He's your president too, admit it or not.
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    according to Obama.. he didn't set a red line...the world did.

    I give credit where credit is due... but I don't give unilateral credit when there was a massive international effort in place, though.

    everyone played their parts.. Obama, Congress, Putin, the UN, etc
    if Obama went at it alone, he'd be laughed at by Assad.
    Yeah, but the red line was the catalyst. It would be hard to argue against that.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    according to Obama.. he didn't set a red line...the world did.

    I give credit where credit is due... but I don't give unilateral credit when there was a massive international effort in place, though.

    everyone played their parts.. Obama, Congress, Putin, the UN, etc
    if Obama went at it alone, he'd be laughed at by Assad.
    Don't you know that Obama accepts responsibility for anything that goes wrong. He did not hear about it or Bush is responsible for it.Now if something goes right that ia another matter.
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Yeah, but the red line was the catalyst. It would be hard to argue against that.
    yup, when Obama says "jump".. Putin says " how high"

    the Russian plan was already "unofficially" approved before Obama spoke about "red lines" ( sept 6 versus sept 13)... the US was still seeking authorization to use military force ( which Russia blocked in the UN) a short time later, Putin and Obama talked at the G20 summit.. putin's plan was to bring the weapons under international control... he didn't want military intervention to occur, especially unilateral US military force.

    Obama did his part, for which he gets Kudos.. but this whole thing was the Putin show... unfortunately.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    We shouldn't forget what happened in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983 when Reagan was president.

    299 American and French servicemen were killed by 2 terrorist truck bombs in the Beirut Barracks bombing on October 23, 1983.

    Who wants to bet that we won't see some similar incidents in Iraq?


    I think a Blackhawk down scenario more likely....

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Obama's red line produced tangible results in Syria...
    Tangible maybe. Robust? Possibly. It also showed that the US might have a big stick, but talks about it in a loud voice about using it, when it won't.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I think a Blackhawk down scenario more likely...
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    I am a person who is generally optimistic, but I'll be amazed if anything good happens in Iraq in the near future.

    Nothing points in that direction.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Tangible maybe. Robust? Possibly. It also showed that the US might have a big stick, but talks about it in a loud voice about using it, when it won't.
    Thankfully, Obama only threatened to use that stick, rather than beating a hornet's nest with it.

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