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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And you say?
    The choice isn't as binary as that. There are a plethora of things we can and should be doing short of sending troops back to Baghdad. I support intervention but I don't think it's necessary to send troops right now.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The problem is both parties are in bed with their corporate interests, Wall Street Firms, special interests, lobbyist, etc. Where do you think Romney and Obama got a billion dollars each to spend on their campaigns?

    Here is some, breakdown by sector:

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Completely, or even mostly, agreeing with Obama and his policies, is insane.

    Completely, or even mostly, disagreeing with Obama and his policies, is ALSO insane.

    As with anything, absolutes are absolutely unacceptable. And yes I know that contradicts itself.
    I think that rejection of absolutism is the only area in which absolutism should be used. :P

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I don't really know if we should or should not put troops back in Iraq. Or even whether we should support them without deploying troops on the ground.


    I suspect that the only way to really stabilize the region would be to separate it into several "states", with majority Shia, Sunni, or Kurd residents in each - it would appear that any one faction having majority control (as seemingly took place when we were helping) is a bad idea.

    It's kinda like if republicans and democrats were willing to kill and terrorize each other in order to advance their position. The Kurds are the independents, centrists, and such, sitting in their territory shaking their heads. And keeping the democrats and republicans out.

    Terrible analogy I know.

    So far as I can tell, however, thought processes are just DIFFERENT in that country...hell maybe the region.
    They don't have the same priorities that I have, it would seem...



    What makes everyone think that these Islamic terrorists would accept a three state solution even if Malicai agreed? They are already talking Lebanon and Jordon and beyond....

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    3 people voted to remain in Iraq.

    46 voted to get out.

    I have not researched the people who voted, but are you saying all 46 that voted "no" are "lefties"?


    I voted to stay in Iraq, but not troops on the ground.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    This is complete nonsense. Just fully divorced from reality.


    Kobie, why do you consider rising gas prices are complete nonsense..? .This has already been predicted.

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Yes, Republicans and the Tea Party have essentially tried to make themselves the antithesis of Obama in every way possible and abandoning ideology entirely in favor of corporate interests. That does not mean that we on the left should become Obama apologists.
    Well, I don't think those of us on the 'left' are obliged to do the Right wing's work for them. Obama has never been a left wing democrat, especially not on foreign policy issues. Had he been on the Far Left, I wouldn't have voted for him. Neither would a hell of a lot of other 'slightly Liberal' voters either.
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    What makes everyone think that these Islamic terrorists would accept a three state solution even if Malicai agreed? They are already talking Lebanon and Jordon and beyond....
    Don't know that they would.

    Perhaps the only way to keep some level of stability in the region is to resurrect Saddam and put him back in charge.


    Edit: Or do the same by telling them "stop fighting each other or we'll murder you alot".
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Don't know that they would.

    Perhaps the only way to keep some level of stability in the region is to resurrect Saddam and put him back in charge.


    Edit: Or do the same by telling them "stop fighting each other or we'll murder you alot".


    No, the only way to stabilize the region is eliminate ISIS, then make sure that a new inclusive government is formed and keep some U.S. " advisors" there permanently...

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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    No, the only way to stabilize the region is eliminate ISIS, then make sure that a new inclusive government is formed and keep some U.S. " advisors" there permanently...
    Thought we did that last time.
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    Re: What should we do about Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Thought we did that last time.



    Not really. We certainly did not see that an inclusive government was formed..and we left no advisors except embassy personnel, nor was ISIS there when we left..

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