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  • George Washington

    23 21.50%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    5 4.67%
  • Abraham Lincoln

    19 17.76%
  • Teddy Roosevelt

    4 3.74%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    0 0%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    19 17.76%
  • John Kennedy

    1 0.93%
  • Ronald Reagan

    21 19.63%
  • Bill Clinton

    3 2.80%
  • Other (please elaborate)

    12 11.21%
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it appears you actually agree with haymarket
    it was the massive government spending which was required to move our nation out of the great depression
    That's not what got the US out of the great depression. See post #162.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    That's not what got the US out of the great depression. See post #162.
    yea, that post is very wrong
    as in today's economy we can see that it is not high tax rates - as that post tells us - which caused entrepreneurs to curtail business creation and expansion
    it is weak demand
    and it was then, too
    and FDR's policies put money in the average Joes' pockets so that there was a demand stimulus
    and when war time hit and we were paying our troops overseas and putting women in the mainstream workforce for the first time, then a lot of new demand was generated
    soon, there was more money than there were goods to buy, and we saw the economy blossom after the war ended
    so, yes, it was the federal stimulus, first the domestic methods, then the wartime requirements, which generated sufficient demand to end the notso great recession
    thank you FDR. my parents and grandparents certainly did
    do yourself a favor
    visit an old folks home, and ask the most aged how FDR and his policies impacted them
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yea, that post is very wrong
    as in today's economy we can see that it is not high tax rates - as that post tells us - which caused entrepreneurs to curtail business creation and expansion
    it is weak demand
    and it was then, too
    and FDR's policies put money in the average Joes' pockets so that there was a demand stimulus
    and when war time hit and we were paying our troops overseas and putting women in the mainstream workforce for the first time, then a lot of new demand was generated
    soon, there was more money than there were goods to buy, and we saw the economy blossom after the war ended
    so, yes, it was the federal stimulus, first the domestic methods, then the wartime requirements, which generated sufficient demand to end the notso great recession
    thank you FDR. my parents and grandparents certainly did
    do yourself a favor
    visit an old folks home, and ask the most aged how FDR and his policies impacted them
    It was a combination of both the New Deal and the War/lowering taxes. If we had cancelled the New Deal programs entirely within a few years, along with cutting govt. spending in a few other areas, and continued to lower taxes, America would be in a much better place right now.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Truman and Eisenhower supported the French in Vietnam to gain their support in Europe against the USSR. After the French defeat in 1954, the US had no reason to stay. Nevertheless, Eisenhower did. Everything else is the result of Eisenhower's war mongering.
    Eisenhower's war mongering. Okaaaaay.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why do you volunteer to remain in a place that steals from you? do you not have the means to escape to another place
    that you choose to remain here of your own volition betrays the illegitimacy of your weak argument
    I can work hard to undo the damage progressive idiocy has inflicted on my country. I love what USA stands for, not the hot mess life failures and political opportunists have done to it.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not true
    and here is my proof
    immediately after the war, before we re-tooled to export to the rest of the now destroyed world, we had regained a good standard of living
    try again
    Wrong. You have zero historical or economic wisdom. People like you freaked out and we're certain the economy would collapse with the end of spending. Oops.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Eisenhower's war mongering. Okaaaaay.
    Eisenhower is looked on as a softie in 1950's history.

    one thing he did do, he played a lot of golf.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yea, that post is very wrong
    as in today's economy we can see that it is not high tax rates - as that post tells us - which caused entrepreneurs to curtail business creation and expansion
    it is weak demand
    and it was then, too
    and FDR's policies put money in the average Joes' pockets so that there was a demand stimulus
    and when war time hit and we were paying our troops overseas and putting women in the mainstream workforce for the first time, then a lot of new demand was generated
    soon, there was more money than there were goods to buy, and we saw the economy blossom after the war ended
    so, yes, it was the federal stimulus, first the domestic methods, then the wartime requirements, which generated sufficient demand to end the notso great recession
    thank you FDR. my parents and grandparents certainly did
    do yourself a favor
    visit an old folks home, and ask the most aged how FDR and his policies impacted them
    That had nothing to do with FDR's policies to get the US out of the great depression, unless FDR knew Japan was going to attack the US so he could convince congress to go to war. (and I really doubt that happened.)

    Adding jobs through government spending helped out some people but not everyone. That's not what got the US out of the great depression.

    I see you acknowledge WWII was a factor in the world overcoming the great depression. However, it was the main factor. No WWII and who knows when the great depression would have ended.

    Though the relief and reform measures put into place by President Franklin D. Roosevelt helped lessen the worst effects of the Great Depression in the 1930s, the economy would not fully turn around until after 1939, when World War II kicked American industry into high gear.
    The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Eisenhower is looked on as a softie in 1950's history.

    one thing he did do, he played a lot of golf.
    He is viewed as such, yes. I believe he was the type of personality we needed at the time.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    massive government spending went into the depression, it did not pull us out......... massive spending on the war effort pulled us out..
    and yes - it was government spending which got us out of the depression. Thank you for agreeing with that. You see, the Depression had already started and was firmly in hold of the nation before any FDR New Deal spending got really rolling. So it in no way shape or form can be said to be responsible for getting us into the depression in the first place.

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