View Poll Results: Who has been our greatest President?

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  • George Washington

    23 21.50%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    5 4.67%
  • Abraham Lincoln

    19 17.76%
  • Teddy Roosevelt

    4 3.74%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    0 0%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    19 17.76%
  • John Kennedy

    1 0.93%
  • Ronald Reagan

    21 19.63%
  • Bill Clinton

    3 2.80%
  • Other (please elaborate)

    12 11.21%
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry... that is not true WWII lifted America out of the depression.

    America was not even prepared for war when it came.
    FDR was President during the period. He presided over the climb out of the Depression and over the triumph over fascism.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Good luck with those mental illness issues.
    What are you talking about...."mental illness issues"? That makes no sense.

    The fact is that FDR is consistently listed as a GREAT PRESIDENT in survey after survey after survey of experts in the areas of politics and history over the last sixty years. And that happens even when conservatives and libertarians hand pick their own panels. And the reason for it is the successful end to the Depression and the triumph over fascism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori..._United_States

    This is the most comprehensive chart of surveys on the matter I have ever come across. It demonstrates clearly beyond any doubt that the experts select FDR over and over and over again as a GREAT PRESIDENT no matter who selects them and that includes the libertarian leaning Federalist Society.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    delusional is to think that we needed the remedies FDR foisted on us. He also hung Pearl Harbor out to dry
    Pearl Harbor!?!?!?!? Should comments like that better belong in the questionable CONSPIRACY section of the board right along with the refuted nonsense about the Supreme Court?
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    delusional is to think that we needed the remedies FDR foisted on us. He also hung Pearl Harbor out to dry
    Bush let bin laden attack us. I don't see you complaining about that.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Libertarians and other losers want a tiny government so they can rape the general population as much as possible, eliminating as many regulations as possible so that others, the country, the environment, and pretty much everything can be destroyed as long as they get "theirs". They want as small a federal government as possible because it is far easier for them to control and corrupt the smaller state governments so they can soak everyone except their own little elite group. Thank goodness that FDR was elected and made sure none of this occurred.

    Do you see how ridiculous your silly hyperbole sounds, turtle?
    ACTUALLY, winners want to be unfettered by government. failures want someone else to take care of them

    most of us libertarians see big government as a butt hurt reaction of those who are failures



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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, that is your opinion and not based in reality. It is not your place to tell me what I think. What I see is that none of us live in a vacuum. We are all affected by those around us and none of us can manage everything ourselves. We all need infrastructure to assist us. Much of what FDR did was create a more effective infrastructure and acknowledge that none of us live in a vacuum.



    Actually, this is the end game of conservatives. A small elite group dictating to others and rigging the game so that others will remain outside the elite.
    Funny, conservative policy is to push for personal excellence not endless government assisstence. I think, you are far more enamored with intent then results.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ACTUALLY, winners want to be unfettered by government. failures want someone else to take care of them

    most of us libertarians see big government as a butt hurt reaction of those who are failures
    WINNERS!?!?!?!?!? Where have I heard that description before?
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Funny, cinservative policy is to push for personal excellence nit endless government assisstence. I thin, you are far more enamored with intent then results.
    And then there are the practical pragmatists who see America as a place where people can pursue personal excellence as well as having a just society that sees people as more than just fodder for the machine.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ACTUALLY, winners want to be unfettered by government. failures want someone else to take care of them

    most of us libertarians see big government as a butt hurt reaction of those who are failures
    LOL. You are not a libertarian. You supported bush and his big govt policies.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    WINNERS!?!?!?!?!? Where have I heard that description before?
    Obama? When he was telling us how to spread the wealth from middle class fools to his rich buddies?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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