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  • George Washington

    23 21.50%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    5 4.67%
  • Abraham Lincoln

    19 17.76%
  • Teddy Roosevelt

    4 3.74%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    0 0%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    19 17.76%
  • John Kennedy

    1 0.93%
  • Ronald Reagan

    21 19.63%
  • Bill Clinton

    3 2.80%
  • Other (please elaborate)

    12 11.21%
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    And so is a Republican liking Grover Cleveland, who was vilified by the GOP during his time.
    The only Dem to be elected between Lincoln and Wilson, and lost in 1888 even though he won the popular vote.
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    Seems Dems are 0 for 4 when the Electoral college winner loses the popular vote .
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    I'm going with Abe. Even though he did a few things differently than I would have done. He still managed to sail the ship through some rough waters.

    Next is George Washington, followed by FDR.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    JFK created the peace corps. a well executed, novel idea
    he stared down kruschev, who was trying to see if he could make kennedy his bitch, both in berlin and in cuba
    but most impressively, he had the vision to launch the space program with a very ambitious goal and even more ambitious time line

    i will defy anyone to point to a subsequent presidential vision that was as massive and/or as successful

    changing gears, i do not see where anyone has pointed to FDR's authorization of a nuclear weaponry program as being as significant and world changing as it actually was
    On FDR, it could be because it was Truman who actually used the bomb. But it is FDR that is considered on of our three greatest presidents, not Truman although most Historians put good old Harry into the near great category along with Jefferson, TR, Jackson and IKE.

    On JFK, I always place him second on the list of best presidents I have experienced in my lifetime, IKE being number one. Although I was born, I do not personally remember Truman so I always start off with Eisenhower.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    did you know that Lincoln stated in 1854 state secession was legal.

    and of coarse it is, according to the founders at the constitutional convention, may 30, 1787

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I've seen righties constantly try to champion Truman, JFK and even Clinton as "good" Dems when they play their "divide" card.
    But I rarely see Dems on here say any of GOP critters are "good".
    Now for me, I would choose Lincoln, TR and IKE as "good" GOPs.


    As for the original Dems before people could vote, they're ours--Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe.
    The GOPs can have both Adams.
    But I'll take Sam Adams--blonde if you will .
    I really dislike it when one, anyone tries to place a past president into one of the parties today. Today's political parties are so different from the Republicans and Democrats of the 1950's and 60's let alone in the 19th century. I do not think IKE, JFK or even Goldwater would recognize the parties of today as the parties they belonged to back then. I personally think both IKE and JFK would be horrified to see what their political parties evolved into. But that is just my opinion.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And so is a Republican liking Grover Cleveland, who was vilified by the GOP during his time.
    The only Dem to be elected between Lincoln and Wilson, and lost in 1888 even though he won the popular vote.

    Seems Dems are 0 for 4 when the Electoral college winner loses the popular vote .
    the popular vote, a horrible thing for electing the president.

    electoral college, electors chosen by district, or state wide by the people....that's the way to go.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That is because you see people as incapable, requiring the support if thier betters (which you presume to be a part of). You cannot accept that failure in life can and should occur and feel guilt at your own success.
    No, that is your opinion and not based in reality. It is not your place to tell me what I think. What I see is that none of us live in a vacuum. We are all affected by those around us and none of us can manage everything ourselves. We all need infrastructure to assist us. Much of what FDR did was create a more effective infrastructure and acknowledge that none of us live in a vacuum.

    The end game of progressives is a small elite group guiding the unwashed masses to makee "good choices" They are unable to do on thier own
    Actually, this is the end game of conservatives. A small elite group dictating to others and rigging the game so that others will remain outside the elite.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by DB20 View Post
    I'd have to say the best ever was Calvin Coolidge. He was one of the very few presidents who wasn't an egotistical, narcissistic, power hungry megalomaniac. He also did far more than any other president in history to limit the power of the federal government and prevent it from intruding in the lives of the citizens.
    He was probably one of the worst. His policies led to the Great Depression... vetoing farming subsidies and lack of market regulation for example. His only positive was undoing the damage caused by the Harding scandals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    from a constitutional stand point it would be Grover Cleveland - a democrat
    Yeah, Cleveland was pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialists and other losers want a big nanny state government to give them the property of others. They want a big federal government because if individual statess tried to engage in too much soak the rich nonsense, said states would go bankrupt. The country would have been far better off if FDR had died shortly after taking office or have been defeated in 36.
    Libertarians and other losers want a tiny government so they can rape the general population as much as possible, eliminating as many regulations as possible so that others, the country, the environment, and pretty much everything can be destroyed as long as they get "theirs". They want as small a federal government as possible because it is far easier for them to control and corrupt the smaller state governments so they can soak everyone except their own little elite group. Thank goodness that FDR was elected and made sure none of this occurred.

    Do you see how ridiculous your silly hyperbole sounds, turtle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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