View Poll Results: Who has been our greatest President?

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  • George Washington

    23 21.50%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    5 4.67%
  • Abraham Lincoln

    19 17.76%
  • Teddy Roosevelt

    4 3.74%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    0 0%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    19 17.76%
  • John Kennedy

    1 0.93%
  • Ronald Reagan

    21 19.63%
  • Bill Clinton

    3 2.80%
  • Other (please elaborate)

    12 11.21%
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The only good politician is one with failing health.
    I like your thinking.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    They WILLINGLY collect the money in the end. Sorry, but wanting the system abolished and then collecting money on it IS hypocritical. My blinders are not on, you're excusing hypocrisy.
    It is their money that they already paid in. Why would you not try and get the money you were forced to pay in back. It is absolutely not hypocritical to try and get back some of your own money.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I like your thinking.
    Think of it as a naturalistic way of imposing term limits.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's the republicans who call themselves the party of Lincoln. The republicans aren't secessionists. You're conflating on that last.

    And to save the union he destroyed it's founding principles. Ran roughshod over the Constitution. We are America now thanks to him, but we no longer have claim to the United States part.
    Yeah, that's great we'd have the "founding principles" but no union. The Constitution would be nothing more than an interesting historical footnote in our history.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    from a constitutional stand point it would be Grover Cleveland - a democrat

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    It is their money that they already paid in. Why would you not try and get the money you were forced to pay in back. It is absolutely not hypocritical to try and get back some of your own money.
    It is hypocritical to collect the money when you don't believe the system should exist. There is no getting around that.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Come on, you can do better than that. I get that you like Clinton because he supported Kosovo, and I agree that Clinton was a really great US president, but greatest of all time?
    Yes, I fully support what I said. You had to be through the war of 1999 to understand what was went through. He is an all time best hero of a President that USA still has!
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    his "goals" were getting the country through the Depression to better times and defeating fascism. How anybody can be against that and claim it was anything but tremendous is delusional.
    His goals didn't allow the US to overcome the great depression, unless he sat on the knowledge that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed, no matter how noble they may have been. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.
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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If they don't approve of the system at all and want it removed, it is hypocritical to take part in said system. And you tell ME to get a clue? That's like saying abortion should be illegal while you are walking into the clinic to have one.
    Like you have a choice? Get a clue...

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    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Who has been our greatest President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It is hypocritical to collect the money when you don't believe the system should exist. There is no getting around that.
    Could they have opted out?

    If you are forced to pay into something with the assumption that your contribution will be returned to you at the end, it isn't hypocritical to look for your own money back, especially when you have no choice in the first place. The government compels us to contribute.

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