View Poll Results: Can one be called a Doctor, no matter the setting, if they have a Doctrates?

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Thread: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    ok. I disagree. Especailly if that person has a Ph.D in a field related to medicine and other clinical practice. I'm quite confident people like Psychologist would laugh at your assertion that they do not have the right to refer to themselves as a Doctor when their coursework and time invested in study is just as consuming and rigours, if not more (It's a higher ranking degree than md) as that of a physicians course work.

    If I am recalling correctly the laws prohibit anyone from posing and falsely claiming they are a physician or Medical doctor - they don't prohibit you from using your earned title.
    Not all psychologists have a doctorate, and they are not medical doctors-they are called psychologists not doctors when with patients. Psychiatrists yes.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Placating public ignorance is not an excuse to rob people of their title. It's also hyperbolic to assume that a Doctor of Pyschology would put themselves in a posistion where they are being confused with a physician.

    Flippantly dimissing the amount of work required, and life time required, to earn a ph.d is absurd.
    Its not dismissing anything. We want our patients to know who we are and not get any false impressions. Im also a Paramedic and get called an EMT or "ambulance driver" at times. Paramedics are much higher trained, but I understand the confusion so I let it go. To the people whos opinions I care about-my colleagues and family-they know.

    I dont loose sleep about someone not calling me by a title earned by my education, its a non issue.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Why else would you get a doctorate other than to be called doctor?
    Im less interested in the title and more interested in gaining the education.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im less interested in the title and more interested in gaining the education.
    No one can take a joke it seems.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Okay. So how has that aided the patient in any way? Do you think it made them feel better or you feel better? Do you think medical doctors use the title in that setting because of personal gratification or because it's required?
    I agree fully. A title is fine, but most people I know are over the title game.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Some, if not many, do. There's a difference in Ph.D and MD. The Ph.D being the larger of the two degrees. A Physician with a doctrates is held at a higher esteem than a Physician with only an MD. To earn a Ph.D you literally have to take the established knowledge in your field of study and add something new to it - your disseration. That's no easy feat.
    This is not entirely true, I can speak for California.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    No one can take a joke it seems.
    If it was a joke it was kinda funny. It just wasn't clear that it was.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    But I will say... in reality, its generally not worth it. Patients often dont hear it, they get confused, and calling yourself doctor really just tends to confuse things. In my experience, the people who do that are either totally insecure about their role or arrogant egotists.

    And with a PhD, that gets even more confusing in the health care setting. The best advice (and the one that I've given to students for decades) is just dont bother with the title unless its a professional function. Students call me doctor, which is fine, and colleagues at formal conferences certainly do the same, or in introductions, but realistically, the only people who use the title in everyday use are boors. By everyday use, I mean introducing yourself as "Dr. and Mrs" to a neighbor, or at a social event, etc. And almost no PhDs outside of a health care field would EVER use the title doctor unless it was in a professional capacity.
    On this we agree.

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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If a person is having a heart attack and someone asks "is there a doctor in here" can you say that "yeah I am a doctor" if you have a pHD in chicano studies?
    Dr. Joe Blow, MD.
    Dr. John Doe, PhD.
    I don't see the confusion.
    If you have a doctorate you're probably aware of the difference.
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    Re: Can we talk Doctors? A Discussion on the Academic Title

    Everyone, including physicians, should eschew the title "Dr." when outside of their own professional settings. Everyone, including PhDs and Physicians should feel encouraged to use the title 'Dr.' in their respective professional settings. It is mostly physicians that I see using the title 'Dr.' outside of their professional setting, though occasionally PhDs do as well.
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