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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think basically we are saying the same thing, but in a different way. The meaning is the same.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Brigitte goes on CNN and gets schooled by a Muslim.


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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Early interview with my Friend Brigitte Gabriel at Duke:




    I posted her vids as early as 2004/5
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    The problem here is the use/meaning of 'radical'.
    Certainly 25% of Muslims aren't "terrorists" .. the old strawman we see in this string and in the rigged youngturk youtube in the post above mine.
    Terrorists would be under 1%.

    But how many are Fundamentalist? Literalist? Is that "radical?
    If we use those terms the way we use it on Christians it would be a healthy Majority.
    The same healthy Majority that supports Sharia worldwide and elected the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, with the more "Radical" Salafis second. Between them 70%.
    Salafis, Coincidentally (Not), won 25% in 'moderate' Egypt!
    Do you consider the MB "radical"? Salafis?
    So her claim is Not at all off base.
    Many Muslims and Muslim govts financially support terrorists radicals: Saudi, Pakistan, Hamas charities, etc.

    Christians are persecuted and Cleansed in Most Muslim countries by their peoples AND Governments.

    So 'radical'? Would you call Falwell/Robertson Radical? Because I would say about 2/3++ of Muslims are at least that 'radical'.
    Then, of course, you have the problem of Literal or Radical to What?

    Being Literal to the NT would cause what counterproductive behavior exactly? Teaching creationism instead of evolution?
    Being literal to the Koran, OTOH, has many Violent repercussions we do see worldwide.
    People die Every day in the NAME of Islam/it's scripture.
    What would Falwell proscribe for Adultery, Counseling? While a Majority of Muslims support Stoning to Death for Adultery as prescribed by Sharia.

    A Christian Fundamentalist is a missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    15% to 25% of all the world's Muslims are radical jihadist. And Obama is supposedly in charge of our national security (NOT) and wants to issue millions of travel visas and immigrant visas to these Muslims.
    Why is it that every post you make, regardless of the subject, turns into a bash of Obama? EVery frickin' post. Congratulations.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Haven't seen any Christians stepping up to stop radical Christians from furthering persecution of homosexuals in Uganda.
    Stop them? Hell the Far Right bible-thumping wackos support them.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Why is it that every post you make, regardless of the subject, turns into a bash of Obama? EVery frickin' post. Congratulations.
    It obvious, I don't have Nixon to kick around any more.

    Also nobody was killed during the Watergate break in.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A video wont do it, if videos were the standard we wouldnt need actual research, would we? Show me that both are comparing apples to apples and we can go from there. But if we are merely picking videos to make points thats shaky ground. In any case, its still a massive number.
    It's a Gallup Report. I don't see how that's untrustworthy.

    If my math is correct thats still something like 120 million. Meaning its a effing huge number, which still makes her case.
    No it doesn't, because regardless of her cited statistic, which was not correct, the religion of those who identify with radical Islam is not relevant. How many Americans would support war in the name of "Judeo-Christian values?" You and I both know that answer would be a significant amount of them.

    And you owned the ME comment until you started dancing about the number including those elsewhere in asia, which is NOT what you said.

    Be up front, theres no need to hide, though liberals never seem to want to do that.
    I posted something that was incorrect. It was late at night, and I probably shouldn't have been trying to debate that late in the first place. I apologize. Is that what you were looking for?

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I agree with this and frankly dont know many people who fully agree with ANY parties political platform. But I can look back at the opinions and beliefs and opinions I have and plot them out approximately as left or right (and in a few cases, frankly both sides).

    Im not asking for an exhaustive self examination, Im asking for you to look across the spectrum of your beliefs and roughly plot them out. Its rare that they are truly all over the map, much as a centrist who is truly EXACTLY in the middle is rare.

    Incidentally, the reason I word poll choices the way I do is to gather general insight into some of these issues, at least as far as they are seen across the spectrum. If we water it down with a million choices it becomes less useful. This isnt a research paper.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    The poll doesn't tell us how many have favorable opinions of Al Qaeda, and how many didn't know/didn't care. I agree that that's alarming, but it's relatively inconsistent with everything else I've seen.
    PEW does the best global research on this, and they do it every year. If Pew and someone else disagree, Pew is probably right.

    I think you meant Palestinian Muslims.
    On that you are correct, mea culpa.

    89% of Pakistani Muslims were opposed to suicide-bombing.
    Sort of - they are opposed to suicide bombing targeting fellow civilians and particularly fellow Muslims (that's a big divide within the Islamist community).

    But when there is an election, it is the Islamists who win.

    In addition, 64% of Palestinians said they were concerned about Islamic extremism, according to the poll, which conflicts with the question about suicide-bombers.
    The ability of people to simultaneously depend on people who worry us shouldn't be that surprising. See: US foreign policy towards Iranian Qods Forces, in Iraq v. everywhere else.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Early interview with my Friend Brigitte Gabriel at Duke:




    I posted her vids as early as 2004/5
    Brigitte Gabriel: Maronite Lebanese, Video - Christian Forums


    The problem here is the use/meaning of 'radical'.
    Certainly 25% of Muslims aren't "terrorists" .. the old strawman we see in this string and in the rigged youngturk youtube in the post above mine.
    Terrorists would be under 1%.

    But how many are Fundamentalist? Literalist? Is that "radical?
    If we use those terms the way we use it on Christians it would be a healthy Majority.
    The same healthy Majority that supports Sharia worldwide and elected the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, with the more "Radical" Salafis second. Between them 70%.
    Salafis, Coincidentally (Not), won 25% in 'moderate' Egypt!
    Do you consider the MB "radical"? Salafis?
    So her claim is Not at all off base.
    Many Muslims and Muslim govts financially support terrorists radicals: Saudi, Pakistan, Hamas charities, etc.

    Christians are persecuted and Cleansed in Most Muslim countries by their peoples AND Governments.

    So 'radical'? Would you call Falwell/Robertson Radical? Because I would say about 2/3++ of Muslims are at least that 'radical'.
    Then, of course, you have the problem of Literal or Radical to What?

    Being Literal to the NT would cause what counterproductive behavior exactly? Teaching creationism instead of evolution?
    Being literal to the Koran, OTOH, has many Violent repercussions we do see worldwide.
    People die Every day in the NAME of Islam/it's scripture.
    What would Falwell proscribe for Adultery, Counseling? While a Majority of Muslims support Stoning to Death for Adultery as prescribed by Sharia.

    A Christian Fundamentalist is a missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
    Outstanding post, might I ask how you met her?

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