View Poll Results: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

Voters
42. You may not vote on this poll
  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    19 45.24%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    11 26.19%
  • Im not American, yes.

    3 7.14%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    0 0%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    6 14.29%
  • Im not American, no.

    3 7.14%
Page 7 of 28 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 274

Thread: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

  1. #61
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,857
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You almost certainly have a lean in some way, and yes I mean to others. Asked another way, if you were to self-describe your political lean, would you say its precisely and fully in the middle of the political spectrum? If that answer is no, to which side would would you lean?
    Look under my avatar. I'm Independent. Again, I'm neither left, nor right. Some people consider me left of center, others consider me right of center. As such what others think my lean is has no bearing on what I really am because they only base their decisions on how they have seen me talk in specific issues.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  2. #62
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Look under my avatar. I'm Independent. Again, I'm neither left, nor right. Some people consider me left of center, others consider me right of center. As such what others think my lean is has no bearing on what I really am because they only base their decisions on how they have seen me talk in specific issues.
    I see this as intellectually lazy. Many centrists think they are somehow above the fray, but I disagree.

    BTW, Im a registered independent in CA, but am actually conservative with libertarian leanings. Independant does not mean centrist.

  3. #63
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,857
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I see this as intellectually lazy. Many centrists think they are somehow above the fray, but I disagree.

    BTW, Im a registered independent in CA, but am actually conservative with libertarian leanings. Independant does not mean centrist.
    But i'm not a centrist either. My lean is Independent for a reason. It is not just about not being a part of the Republican or Democratic platform. For a true Independent it is about not caring about party lines or party affiliations or party titles or groups period. Its about judging issues on their own merit and the right and left and anything else be damned. The only thing that matters is whether the merit of a specific issue is valid or not. You can call that intellectually lazy if you want. But it takes a lot more intellectual exercise to come up with your own individual stance on each particular issue than it does to follow a crowd and just nod your head.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  4. #64
    Guru
    Smeagol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    02-19-17 @ 11:35 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,147

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Agree with which woman, the lady asking the question of the lady on the panel?

    I agree with the lady asking the question to a large extent. We cannot win the war with radical Islam militarily. However I do not think the focus should be ideological either. It needs to be economic. The funding for radical Islam is rooted in the benefits of being based in a oil-rich region in a world that is almost exclusively dependent on oil as its economic life's blood. This does not have to be. We have technology that could bring the terrorist/dictator economy to its knees if we would simply get behind it. All it would take is for the electric car sector to have the same benefits of large-scale mass production and competitive forces in play to further encourage innovation and some healthy price wars and the game gets changed with respect to our need to underwrite terrorism (or open up new markets for terrorist funding thinking if they sold their oil to China instead of us, that somehow means they're no longer a problem because our favorite political pundit said so.). The only way we will win the war on terror is to force them to try to create an economy on the camel dairy and date sugar industries by flooding the globe with electric automotive technology.

    I agree with the lady on the panel too. 15% is still 300 million people willing to die if it means they get to kill some Americans in the process. 300 million people is roughly the same as the entire population of the United States. I think however the economic pressure of making petroleum almost worthless compared to the status it holds now is a better and more effective option than killing our way out of the problem.
    Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011

  5. #65
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But i'm not a centrist either. My lean is Independent for a reason. It is not just about not being a part of the Republican or Democratic platform. For a true Independent it is about not caring about party lines or party affiliations or party titles or groups period. Its about judging issues on their own merit and the right and left and anything else be damned. The only thing that matters is whether the merit of a specific issue is valid or not. You can call that intellectually lazy if you want. But it takes a lot more intellectual exercise to come up with your own individual stance on each particular issue than it does to follow a crowd and just nod your head.
    I agree with this and frankly dont know many people who fully agree with ANY parties political platform. But I can look back at the opinions and beliefs and opinions I have and plot them out approximately as left or right (and in a few cases, frankly both sides).

    Im not asking for an exhaustive self examination, Im asking for you to look across the spectrum of your beliefs and roughly plot them out. Its rare that they are truly all over the map, much as a centrist who is truly EXACTLY in the middle is rare.

    Incidentally, the reason I word poll choices the way I do is to gather general insight into some of these issues, at least as far as they are seen across the spectrum. If we water it down with a million choices it becomes less useful. This isnt a research paper.

  6. #66
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,928
    Blog Entries
    24

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Classical liberals have more in common with modern conservatives than modern liberals. Liberals are good at moving from name to name as they soil each one.
    The problem is the classic liberal or the traditional conservative really do not exist anymore. You are correct, individual liberty which was so important to a classic liberal has been replace by group security or at least identifying everything with groups instead of individuals.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  7. #67
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The problem is the classic liberal or the traditional conservative really do not exist anymore. You are correct, individual liberty which was so important to a classic liberal has been replace by group security or at least identifying everything with groups instead of individuals.
    You might be right, I see the dichotomy today as more those who are for individualism and self reliance vs those who are for increasing the size of the state-so as to mobilize it to get their way.

    Those for big govt vs those who aren't.

    Interestingly enough, I see more and more conservatives with libertarian leanings which gets closer to conservatism than the republican party has been for some time.

    I personally am non-religious and pro-choice, but recognize that the facts of life are conservative and appreciate that. Im not for more govt control and dont see the role of govt as a means of social change.

  8. #68
    Chews the Cud
    Amadeus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Benghazi
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    6,081

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Brigitte Gabrielle says that 15-25% of Muslims are radicalised.

    She's nothing more than a crazy, right-wing fear-monger. Her accent doesn't give her any credibility on the Middle East or Muslim affairs.

  9. #69
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,928
    Blog Entries
    24

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You might be right, I see the dichotomy today as more those who are for individualism and self reliance vs those who are for increasing the size of the state-so as to mobilize it to get their way.

    Those for big govt vs those who aren't.

    Interestingly enough, I see more and more conservatives with libertarian leanings which gets closer to conservatism than the republican party has been for some time.

    I personally am non-religious and pro-choice, but recognize that the facts of life are conservative and appreciate that. Im not for more govt control and dont see the role of govt as a means of social change.
    I think basically we are saying the same thing, but in a different way. The meaning is the same.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  10. #70
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Brigitte Gabrielle says that 15-25% of Muslims are radicalised.

    She's nothing more than a crazy, right-wing fear-monger. Her accent doesn't give her any credibility on the Middle East or Muslim affairs.
    Ah heres the character assassination, right on cue. She was born and grew up in the middle east, I believe she knows more than you and I. Forget her accent, her points still are valid and quite coherent how about you prove her wrong by providing data.

    If you dont like that, address those rather than attack her. If you have different numbers, comparing the same parameters I'd love to see it. The same goes for the studies I posted here in this thread. (pew, etc)

Page 7 of 28 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •