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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by DB20 View Post
    Ok so the tea party is extremist?

    What about the left who will say that I'm engaging in a "war on women" and that I hate women and want to control them for no other reason than that I am pro-life. All I have to say to a leftist is that I'm pro-life, nothing else and that is the response they give to me. they know nothing at all about me other than I disagree with their views of abortion yet they know for a fact that I want to control women. They don't know nor do they care that I am a husband and father who does everything possible to make my wife and daughters lives happy and safe. Nope.....all they need to know is I don't share their opinion on the abortion issue so I hate women and want to control them.

    That's not extreme?
    Yeah, that's pretty extreme. I'm opposed to radical feminism as well.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    The panel was on terrorism, not religious extremism regarding separation of church and state.

    That is correct, because we're discussing terrorism. Muslims with fundamentalists views are not relevant to this discussion. If we want to discuss religious extremism, and the fact that some political parties in Islamic countries would not be welcomed in this country as mainstream, that's true. That's an entirely separate discussion.
    No, Actually the Discussion had gotten to whether or not as many as "25%" of Muslims were "Radical".
    Both by specification and Obviously Ms Gabriel did Not say/feel Radical Muslim 25% were "Terrorists".
    As to whether 25% of the Large Majority who are Religious Radicals are terrorist sympathizers as well, I'd say, easily Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat
    There are Muslims with extreme views. This group in question that we're discussing right now (Muslims against a separation of church and state and opposed to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups) are not affiliated with terrorist groups, or even in support of them, so I fail to understand why you are so obsessed with them.

    They don't get a so called "free pass" from me. I'm going to disagree with an Islamic fundamentalist just as much as any other religious fundamentalist.

    There are two different definitions of moderate being used here. Moderate in regards to terrorism, which I am using, and moderate in regards to fundamentalism, which you are using.

    Here is the ideology of the most recent winning party in Pakistan, who you claimed to be run by extremists.
    Pakistan governor’s suspected assassin hailed as hero
    Jan 5, 2011
    Pakistan governor's suspected assassin hailed as hero - Washington Times

    LAHORE, Pakistan | Lawyers showered the suspected killer of a prominent Pakistani governor with rose petals when he arrived at court Wednesday,
    and an influential Muslim scholars group Praised the assassination of the outspoken opponent of laws that order death for those who Insult Islam.

    Mumtaz Qadri, 26, made his first appearance in an Islamabad court, where a judge remanded him in custody. Mr. Qadri is accused of spraying automatic gunfire at the back of Punjab province Gov. Salmaan Taseer while he was supposed to be protecting him as a bodyguard.

    A rowdy crowd slapped him on the back and kissed his cheek as he was escorted inside the court. The lawyers who tossed the rose petals were not involved in the case.

    As he left the court, a crowd of about 200 sympathizers chanted slogans in his favor. The suspect stood at the back door of an armored police van with a flower necklace given to him by an admirer and repeatedly yelled, “God is great.”

    More than 500 clerics and scholars from the group Jamat Ahle Sunnat said no one should pray or express regret for the killing of the governor. The group representing Pakistan’s Majority Barelvi sect, which follows a brand of Islam considered moderate, also issued a veiled threat to other opponents of the blasphemy laws.


    Pakistanis bury Punjab Gov. Salman Taseer, who enraged Muslims by opposing
    laws that decreed death for insulting Islam and was slain by a bodyguard.


    The supporter is as equally guilty as one who committed blasphemy,” the group warned in a statement, adding that politicians, the media and others should learn “a lesson from the exemplary death.”

    Jamat leader Maulana Shah Turabul Haq Qadri paid “glorious tribute to the murderer … for his courage, bravery and religious honor and integrity.”
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    The 'moderate' Majority Sect of Pakistan condoned/Celebrated the [Terrorist assassination]/Murder and issued threats of More of the same for those opposing the Death Penalty for 'insulting Islam'. That's right, ie, a 5 year sentence isn't enough. Even sober Lawyers showered Rose petals on the Terrorist Murderer of a Governor.

    Further: They are in Healthy Majority Radical/extremists, and I oppose their immigration to the USA/EU.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Did you not read the section about increasing relations with the U.S. and cracking down on terrorism?
    Yes I did. Did you not read the section about the GoP being a patron of the Afghani Taliban and working with the Haqqanis?

    When they say they are going to crack down on "terrorism", they mean the TTP. They are going to crack down on the terrorists who are targeting them. Not Islamist Terrorism in general - that they see benefit in exporting, whether it's TB in Afghanistan or LET in Kashmir.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    No, Actually the Discussion had gotten to whether or not as many as "25%" of Muslims were "Radical".
    Both by specification and Obviously Ms Gabriel did Not say/feel Radical Muslim 25% were "Terrorists".
    As to whether 25% of the Large Majority who are Religious Radicals are terrorist sympathizers as well, I'd say, easily Yes.



    Pakistan governor’s suspected assassin hailed as hero
    Jan 5, 2011
    Pakistan governor's suspected assassin hailed as hero - Washington Times

    The 'moderate' Majority Sect of Pakistan condoned/Celebrated the [Terrorist assassination]/Murder and issued threats of More of the same for those opposing the Death Penalty for 'insulting Islam'. That's right, ie, a 5 year sentence isn't enough. Even sober Lawyers showered Rose petals on the Terrorist Murderer of a Governor.

    Further: They are in Healthy Majority Radical/extremists, and I oppose their immigration to the USA/EU.
    Freaking amazing. And this is a "moderate" group.

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