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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Where did I use the term 'tedious?'
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Are you telling me you are precisely in the middle? The epitome of centrist? What are the odds of that?
    I thought of his challenge as well but decided, as you pointed out, that nobody is exactly in the middle. I lean a little left, in general, so I voted Yes. I agree.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You can't tell. You've subscribed to the theory that 25% are essentially evil and want to destroy you.

    You've given yourself no out, and you have no solutions. All you have is your hate.
    I like what she said but I don't for a minute think that 25% of Muslims are "radical". That is absolutely retarded.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    It's insignificant to Islam itself, because 87-93% to Muslims are not radicals. And as I said before, the vast majority of Muslims who identify as radicals are not going to resort to violence to prove their point.
    Are you really so profoundly naive as to think that a person's self-identification is what is important here and not what they actually think?

    You quote a finite statistic based upon only one trait, which of course means that you are thus defining as not radical at all such notions as killing people who leave Islam ,killing of homosexuals, and amputations for minor crimes.

    If Christians or Jews were running around saying people should be killed if they stopped following Christianity or Judaism, should we also assume you would defend them in equal measure? After all,you have now established that these attitudes are not in the least bit radical to you.

    If defending knuckle-dragging views that haven't changed in 1500 years is the sign of "progressive" politics, I'd hate to think what your politics must have been before they progressed.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    15% to 25%?

    I think a more likely statistic is .15% to .25% of all Muslims are radical extremists. What an absurd thought, that 300 million people are radical jihadists!

    My God, what a moron that woman is.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    15% to 25%?

    I think a more likely statistic is .15% to .25% of all Muslims are radical extremists. What an absurd thought, that 300 million people are radical jihadists!

    My God, what a moron that woman is.
    That's funny, because you thought/think/Voted the Tea Party is "Radical":
    Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Why? - View Poll Results

    but clearly Not ie, the Muslim Brotherhood who Won the last election in Egypt, with the even More Radical Salafis getting.. drum roll: 25%.

    and there was this
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...jor-war-2.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Ah, yes, this I largely agree with -- though I think it might be more accurate to use the term 'Western' society; I'm not sure how much it has to do with Christianity itself. I do agree with you that certain Islamic theocracies with a hell of a lot of oil money are quite Anti-Western in their geopolitics, and have been Funding networks like Al-Qaeda for a long time.

    That is indeed a coming and current conflict of our time.
    Who's the "Moron"?
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    That's funny, because you thought/think/Voted the Tea Party is "Radical":
    Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Why? - View Poll Results

    but clearly Not ie, the Muslim Brotherhood who Won the last election in Egypt, with the even More Radical Salafis getting.. drum roll.. 25%.

    and there was this
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...jor-war-2.html
    Who's the "Moron"?
    The radical Tea Partiers certainly don't constitute 15% to 25% of all Christians or Westerners, and thank God (metaphorically), for I shudder to think if they did!

    Anyway, I absolutely maintain my stance that radical Islam is awful and must be eradicated. I also maintain that it is dangerous to the West and should not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.

    This is logically coherent with my other allegation that nowhere near 25% of all Muslims are radical extremists.

    The vast, vast, vast majority of Muslims are not radical jihadists, and should not be treated or feared as such. Those that are, however, ought to be identified and eliminated, whether that's through military, economic or educational force.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    The radical Tea Partiers certainly don't constitute 15% to 25% of all Christians or Westerners, and thank God (metaphorically), for I shudder to think if they did!

    Anyway, I absolutely maintain my stance that radical Islam is awful and must be eradicated. I also maintain that it is dangerous to the West and should not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.

    This is logically coherent with my other allegation that nowhere near 25% of all Muslims are radical extremists.

    The vast, vast, vast majority of Muslims are not radical jihadists, and should not be treated or feared as such. Those that are, however, ought to be identified and eliminated, whether that's through military, economic or educational force.
    You "maintain" that the "coming conflict of our time" is a War with ".15-.25%" of Muslims?
    LOL and ooops.

    And you keep adding Modifiers to "Radical" to Fudge the issue, this time "jihadists".
    One can be "radical", such as the aforementioned Salafis, and not be a Terrorist or Jihadi.
    The Tea Party is "Radical" but the Muslim Brotherhood, Salafis, Wahhabis, etc aren't!
    :^)
    Clearly you've not read the string, and beyond that, are PC fudging every word you write
    Too bad your old posts stay up to add hypocrisy to those semantic gymnastics.
    We know your previous standard for "radical", you just made it Double Standard for Islam.
    But you're not alone.
    That would probably put you with every single 'no' voter in the string.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    You "maintain" that the "coming conflict of our time" is a War with ".15-.25%" of Muslims?
    LOL and ooops.

    And you keep adding Modifiers to "Radical" to Fudge the issue, this time "jihadists".
    One can be "radical", such as the aforementioned Salafis, and not be a Terrorist or Jihadi.
    Clearly you've not read the string, and beyond that, are PC fudging every word you write
    Too bad your old posts stay up to add hypocrisy to those semantic gymnastics.
    Bye.
    Bye? I guess.

    Anyway, I maintain that it's plenty possible for a small minority to make an impact on a wider populace, and start to influence that populace in a big way. Your example of Egypt is a good one -- I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of Egyptians are not radical (Muslims, extremists, jihadists, whatever word you want) -- just, simply not radical.

    Even so, if the salafists come to power, there will be a problem, and I think it's very likely this will continue to occur. I think that the vast, vast majority of Iranians are not radical -- rather, they're moderate and normal people. That doesn't stop Iran from being dangerous and radical.

    I'm not sure I'm necessarily disagreeing with that woman's statement -- I totally agree that the silent, peaceful majority don't carry their weight in non-democracies, and it often results in oppressive minority regimes that provoke instability in their region and beyond.

    I just can't abide the absurdity of being told that 25% of all adherents to the world's second biggest religion are extremists. It's ridiculous.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Bye? I guess.

    Anyway, I maintain that it's plenty possible for a small minority to make an impact on a wider populace, and start to influence that populace in a big way. Your example of Egypt is a good one -- I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of Egyptians are not radical (Muslims, extremists, jihadists, whatever word you want) -- just, simply not radical.

    Even so, if the salafists come to power, there will be a problem, and I think it's very likely this will continue to occur. I think that the vast, vast majority of Iranians are not radical -- rather, they're moderate and normal people. That doesn't stop Iran from being dangerous and radical.

    I'm not sure I'm necessarily disagreeing with that woman's statement -- I totally agree that the silent, peaceful majority don't carry their weight in non-democracies, and it often results in oppressive minority regimes that provoke instability in their region and beyond.

    I just can't abide the absurdity of being told that 25% of all adherents to the world's second biggest religion are extremists. It's ridiculous.
    Another DISHONEST post. Now he's changed to the word "extremist".
    He buddy, the word in question, without any Doodads you added on like "jihadi", is "Radical".
    No getting away with fudging with me.

    You had no problem with "radical" for the Tea Party, but the Muslim Brotherhood, Salafis, Wahhabis.. aren't
    Great stuff!

    That and your goofy claim that the/Our Big coming conflict was with a mere .15-.25% of Muslims. (who btw, must be funded by other/more 'non radical' muslims/Govts)

    So what's next?
    1. You'll change the word "radical" to yet something else.. or add another modifier to it..
    2. You'll "maintain" something that you are, in fact, Changing.. again.

    It's attempted but Failed Disingenuity for all to see.
    Last edited by mbig; 06-26-14 at 08:26 PM.
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