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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Well,for starters, the woman you trotted out as some sort of example of a "moderate" Muslim just happens to be friends with Mohamed Osman Mohamud.
    She is described as a family friend, not Mohamed Osman's direct friend. Is this guilt by association?

    Now, I realize you are as ignorant of this gentleman as you are of absolutely everything else to do with the subject, but he is that nice fellow who tried to set off a car bomb in Portland in Pioneer Square. She is on record as indicating there is no moral difference between a terrorist and a soldier.
    Is that a religious view? Does she believe that killing is wrong in general? Does she support terrorism?
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Yes, I support her statement that the peaceful ones in all periods of history where the minority has massacred thousands of people are irrelevant because she is absolutely correct. The do nothing to stop the killing. It doesn't matter WHAT that minority is, nazis, radical muslims, Chinese, etc. etc. etc. They are the ones who are doing the killing. And the peaceful ones do nothing.

    For your information and hopefully your edification, NO ONE knows how many radical muslims there are. NO ONE. Not YOU or anyone else. And unless you personally have access to the checkbook of every last one you don't have any clue who is bankrolling the radicals.
    I'm not the one making the claim. Your hero and presidential candidate is.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'm not the one making the claim. Your hero and presidential candidate is.
    You are not smart enough to play this game.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    My only point in this thread is that Brigitte Gabriel is a hack, a fraud, and a pseudo-expert. You align yourself with her at your peril. If you want to be afraid of Muslims for the rest of your life, fill your boots.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Then what is the correct percentage, and how does that tally out into actual people? Even % would come to 10 million. That would be more than the population of our largest city.

    From your link:



    I guess he slept through the Boston Marathon.
    Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

    13% showed a favorable opinion of Al Qaeda, according to this Pew research poll. 7% identified as radicals, according to the Gallup poll I posted earlier. And even out of everyone who holds radical views, only a small percentage of them are actually terrorists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    So, you do the math. How many are radicals at your proffered percentage? By my calculation that would be roughly 70 million radicals. That is more than the population of most of the United States' largest cities all added together. Ahh.........peaceful islam!

    List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.
    Again, just because someone has radical views, does not mean they're going to be willing to commit a crime because of their radical views. And for every one Muslim that identifies as a radical, there are 9 who do not. I hardly see how a fringe element of the religion is a reflection of the religion itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I posted a link to a reputable pew research report on Muslim attitudes.

    If you are capable of any honesty whatsoever, you will take a look at these attitudes with a critical eye. If you are incapable of honesty, then by all means feel free to just continue with the program.
    Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

    Are you referring to this one? 13% have a favorable opinion of Al Qaeda. That is far from what the video in the OP claims, and even less than that are going to be willing to resort to violence for political reasons.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

    13% showed a favorable opinion of Al Qaeda, according to this Pew research poll. 7% identified as radicals, according to the Gallup poll I posted earlier. And even out of everyone who holds radical views, only a small percentage of them are actually terrorists.



    Again, just because someone has radical views, does not mean they're going to be willing to commit a crime because of their radical views. And for every one Muslim that identifies as a radical, there are 9 who do not. I hardly see how a fringe element of the religion is a reflection of the religion itself.



    Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

    Are you referring to this one? 13% have a favorable opinion of Al Qaeda. That is far from what the video in the OP claims, and even less than that are going to be willing to resort to violence for political reasons.
    13% of 1 billion is 130,000,000. That is and 'insignificant fringe?' Do tell.
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    13% of 1 billion is 130,000,000. That is and 'insignificant fringe?' Do tell.
    It's insignificant to Islam itself, because 87-93% to Muslims are not radicals. And as I said before, the vast majority of Muslims who identify as radicals are not going to resort to violence to prove their point.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    It's insignificant to Islam itself, because 87-93% to Muslims are not radicals. And as I said before, the vast majority of Muslims who identify as radicals are not going to resort to violence to prove their point.
    Good effort, bad audience. You're not going to convince these people, and they're the only ones listening. You can get it down to 1% and it won't be enough.

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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    It's insignificant to Islam itself, because 87-93% to Muslims are not radicals. And as I said before, the vast majority of Muslims who identify as radicals are not going to resort to violence to prove their point.
    So 130 million people who wish the demise of western civilization is an 'insignificant fringe?' Really? You actually believe that?
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    Re: Do you agree with this womans comments against radical Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    So 130 million people who wish the demise of western civilization is an 'insignificant fringe?' Really? You actually believe that?
    In the grand scheme of things they're not relevant to Islam. Do you actually believe Islam is at it's core and evil religion because 10% of its followers hold radical beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Good effort, bad audience. You're not going to convince these people, and they're the only ones listening. You can get it down to 1% and it won't be enough.
    True, but one can always try.

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