“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
You make it sound like businesses are suffering more than the average worker, which is simply not true. In reality, the U.S. bends over backwards to serve the interests of corporation; 1 in 9 corporations pay no taxes, and the corporation pays less in taxes than the average taxpayer. (see link) Also, there's no genuine proof that this kind of mandate would hurt businesses at any measurable amount. Every other first world nation offers paid parental leave of some sort, and capitalism is alive and well there. In addition to the abortion reduction issue that I mentioned earlier, if workers believe that it is their right to have paid parental leave, and the vast majority of them do, (see second link) they will be happier with an employer that provides it, and therefore be more productive.Anyway...back on topic. Why do you liberals want to place the cost of consequences of individual choices on the backs of businesses? Do you think those businesses are a bottomless money-bag that you can raid for your feel-good social agenda items? You would be more honest is you just raised taxes and let the government pay for it...but it still wouldn't be the right thing to do.
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Now...if an individual employee wants to negotiate for paid parental leave from a prospective employer, that's fine. But the government has no business getting involved.
You liberals really need to get away from this idea that the government has a right to mandate that others pay for people's personal choices. Like I said...just be honest...just raise taxes on everyone...enact another entitlement program.
Last edited by Mycroft; 06-24-14 at 08:30 PM.
No there isn't. Both things are the result of personal choice of the individual.There's a huge difference between paid parental leave and free flat screen TVs.
Well, you are right on this one. If a company has to pay an employee to not do any work, that's going to hurt the company. The employee will be watching TV on their own time.Firstly, paid parental leave directly has to do with the employer-employee relationship, whilst flat screen TVs do not,
So would the individual making wise decisions...like not having a baby...or buying a TV...unless they can afford it.and secondly, paid parental leave can be necessary for economic stability, while flat screen TVs are not.
All that may be true...but that is a decision arrived at between the employer and the employee. The government has no business mandating that companies spend money...just because the EMPLOYEE wants a benefit.A happier employee means a more productive employee, and as I evidenced before, most people, including parents who have been denied access to paid parental leave, believe that they should have parental leave, and would be more satisfied with a business that grants them parental leave.
Collective bargaining?? What the hell does THAT have to do with anything?Regarding negotiations, how is a worker supposed to participate in the collective bargaining process when states are passing the incorrectly named "right-to-work" laws. Allowing your employees to have paid parental leave also puts companies at a competitive disadvantage when it's not across the board, so the mandate will actually benefit businesses that haven chosen to already give their employees paid parental leave. "the government has a right to mandate that others pay for people's personal choices." You disagree with this statement, but isn't this statement the very basis of taxation itself? Do you therefore oppose taxation?
You really don't know anything about business, do you? All companies are subject to falling under a competitive disadvantage...or advantage...depending on decisions they make. That's the way it works. Don't screw things up by getting the government involved.
Mandating that a business pay for the personal choice of a private citizen is not a tax. It is simply government issuing dictates. Taxes have nothing to do with this issue.
Look, you are twisting, spinning and flying in the breeze trying to justify the government acting as a dictator. It's not working.
Under what circumstances is arguing for paid parental leave radical authoritarian nationalism? Also, I'm neither a democrat nor a socialist.
If you claim you are neither a socialist nor a democrat then you are a liar. At the minimum you are a fascist.