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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Of course, but paid maternity leave encourages them to have more and more kids. "Pro family" in the sense it expands the family.
    Expands the family? People in the hood do that everyday, but I wouldn't call that high family family values either. Expanding the family and then dumping the kid on someone else to take care of while both parents go to work is not pro-family, or good family values.

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Expands the family? People in the hood do that everyday, but I wouldn't call that high family family values either. Expanding the family and then dumping the kid on someone else to take care of while both parents go to work is not pro-family, or good family values.
    No, just those who take "be fruitful and multiply" as far as possible. They'd love to make every family like the Duggars. Paid maternity leave x20 kids sounds like a great way to make a living and screw the company she "works" for.

    Parents who work and 'dump' the kids do it cause they have to. Perhaps they shouldn't have kids, instead of this mandatory paid leave. I'd rather require a parenting license. Even when they aren't at work, poor mothers who would need paid leave are so often crappy parents. I've seen it too often.

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I stand to be corrected, but Canada is a member of the industrialized world and we don't have mandatory paid maternity leave, paid for by companies. We do have mandatory "parental" leave - mother or father can take it - 17 weeks I believe, but that might have increased by now - and employees who have sick leave or vacation benefits are entitled to use them and they are also entitled to collect unemployment insurance for time they take off - mother or father - if they don't have sick time/vacation time. In all cases, the employees job is to be protected and they are entitled to return to it or a similar or better position when they return.

    There are, however, lots of companies who provide better than mandated paternity benefits, which is their right and good on them. Mandating businesses to fully pay employees who are off on maternity leave would, in my opinion, make it harder for women of child bearing age to make it into the upper levels of management, even more so than they may experience without it.
    Here is info on pregnancy and parental leave in Ontario:

    Pregnancy and Parental Leave | Ministry of Labour

    A woman can take 17 weeks pregnancy leave and 35 weeks parental leave, for a total of 52 weeks. As you said, it does not have to be paid and if it isn't, she can collect EI.

    Fathers can also take 35 weeks parental leave, as can adoptive mothers and fathers.

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In Canada you have the 17 weeks and then the government pays one or both of the parents.
    "On top of mandating maternity leave, the government offers paid leave for one or both parents through Canada's employment insurance plan. A pregnant employee or new mother can take a paid maternity leave of up to 15 weeks. " Maternity Leave Basics: Canada Vs. The U.S.
    It's 17 weeks pregnancy leave and 35 weeks parental leave. To receive EI benefits, you must qualify

    Employment Insurance Maternity and Parental Benefits - Service Canada

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you agree with the President's recent statements that the US should join the rest of the industrialized world and have provided paid maternity leave? The President said that Congress should work on legislation requiring employers to have paid maternity leave? Do you believe this should be law or not?
    Nope, that should be up to the company and not the law of the land. If a woman wants to have a baby and get paid maternity leave, then she can save up her sick leave until she has enough days.
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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Nope, that should be up to the company and not the law of the land. If a woman wants to have a baby and get paid maternity leave, then she can save up her sick leave until she has enough days.
    Most companies that provide paid maternity leave require you to be back on the job six weeks after your child is born, if you intend to stay on the payroll. Add to that the fact that most companies won't allow a woman to stay on the job until her due date, for safety reasons, and that is on the form that the doctor fills out that is given to the company. So we could be talking a minimum of two months off. Most women of child-bearing age are too young to have worked long enough to be entitled to that many days off, even including a week or two of vacation time - if she intends to return to work. Many do not, and instead take their chances on being rehired when they feel comfortable about returning to work. Sadly, in this economy, no wonder there are so many abortions, probably for economic reasons.

    It seems the President has a lot of ideas of how a business should operate. which is strange, since he has no experience in that area. I don't how the government handles paid maternity leave, and what their rules are, but government has taxpayer money to play with, which businesses do not.

    I'll be signing off in a few minutes to go watch the fireworks display in our area. Hope you had a great Holiday today. See you tomorrow.

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Most companies that provide paid maternity leave require you to be back on the job six weeks after your child is born, if you intend to stay on the payroll. Add to that the fact that most companies won't allow a woman to stay on the job until her due date, for safety reasons, and that is on the form that the doctor fills out that is given to the company. So we could be talking a minimum of two months off. Most women of child-bearing age are too young to have worked long enough to be entitled to that many days off, even including a week or two of vacation time - if she intends to return to work. Many do not, and instead take their chances on being rehired when they feel comfortable about returning to work. Sadly, in this economy, no wonder there are so many abortions, probably for economic reasons.

    It seems the President has a lot of ideas of how a business should operate. which is strange, since he has no experience in that area. I don't how the government handles paid maternity leave, and what their rules are, but government has taxpayer money to play with, which businesses do not.

    I'll be signing off in a few minutes to go watch the fireworks display in our area. Hope you had a great Holiday today. See you tomorrow.

    Greetings, Pero.
    Enjoy the fireworks Pol,
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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Enjoy the fireworks Pol,
    Pero, maybe I was just in the mood to see something out of the ordinary, but the fireworks were spectacular last evening! They were set to Souza marches and other patriotic music, and the crowd enjoyed every minute of it! At the grand finale, everyone stood up and cheered for the entire time! I think they could have heard us half way across the country - and the wonderful thing was that there was no partisanship, or race, or ethnicity differences - we all love our flag and our country! Very uplifting! If we could just get DC to understand, and show the devotion I saw the crowd demonstrate last night!

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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Pero, maybe I was just in the mood to see something out of the ordinary, but the fireworks were spectacular last evening! They were set to Souza marches and other patriotic music, and the crowd enjoyed every minute of it! At the grand finale, everyone stood up and cheered for the entire time! I think they could have heard us half way across the country - and the wonderful thing was that there was no partisanship, or race, or ethnicity differences - we all love our flag and our country! Very uplifting! If we could just get DC to understand, and show the devotion I saw the crowd demonstrate last night!
    Morning Pol, That sounds great. But I am afraid as long as politics is a game of divide and conquer, there will be no uplifting spirit in Washington. What is it Abe Lincoln said, "A house divided can not stand." That divided house fits Washington to a tee.
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    Re: Should All Companies be Required to Provide Paid Maternity Leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Morning Pol, That sounds great. But I am afraid as long as politics is a game of divide and conquer, there will be no uplifting spirit in Washington. What is it Abe Lincoln said, "A house divided can not stand." That divided house fits Washington to a tee.
    Pero, I don't know how much clearer we can make it to the idiots in DC, on both sides of the aisle! We are sick and tired of the partisanship being shown. You and I, and lots of other people, remember the good old days when both sides compromised in order to get things done! It wasn't "my way or the highway" back then, and we were better off as a country. I fear that many people took BHO's statement that Republicans were the "enemy" literally, so we have this thinking controlling DC, to our continuing detriment. He justified and solidified the partisanship, and I blame him for doing so. He is supposed to be the POTUS for all the people, not just those who think like him! Very stupid move on his part, IMO. Neither side is always right and never wrong, in any situation! His insulting words, just to further his agenda, are affecting everything, and we have gridlock. Then he complains, and goes around Congress to do what he wants to do, and is being slapped down by the SCOTUS, on unanimous votes - which means even the Dems on the Court believe he is being unlawfully over-reaching! Unintended consequences, indeed! Suggestions?

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