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Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face? [W:166]

Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

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Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

I doubt I'd call anybody a Redskin. It is incredibly prejudiced to assume someone is a member of a football team just because of their race.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

I LOL'ed at the obvious joke....but funnily enough here in Ashburn VA I'd dare say you're more likely to have a black person randomly called "redskin" than a native american.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

I agree with what Lizzie said on page 1:

If everyone would try to stop being so freakin uptight about offending someone these days, and actually spend some time getting to know other people with different backgrounds, maybe all you people with severe cases of white guilt could get over your angst. It's rather pathetic.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

Dezaad said:
Here is an article with a more nuanced context for that poll:

How Many Native Americans Think ‘Redskins’ is a Slur? « CBS DC
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Ive posted that same article.

“We just don’t think that (name) is an issue,” Yazzie said. “There are more important things like busing our kids to school, the water settlement, the land quality, the air that surrounds us. Those are issues we can take sides on.”
“Society, they think it’s more derogatory because of the recent discussions,” Yazzie said. “In its pure form, a lot of Native American men, you go into the sweat lodge with what you’ve got — your skin. I don’t see it as derogatory.”
Neither does Eunice Davidson, a Dakota Sioux who lives on the Spirit Lake reservation in North Dakota. “It more or less shows that they approve of our history,” she said.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

No way, it wouldn't be polite.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

I do find it amusing that the right-wing always has to rush to the side of the argument that is most racially offensive. My opinion is that if you want to deliberately offend a group of people, have at it. Lets see how that business model plays out in the 21st century.
 
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iliveonramen said:
What do you base this on? President Obama has done a lot for American Indians.
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Lets start with the sheer dont give a ****edness of every person here that posts their outrage over the 'slur' and has never said word one (or has never done the first thing to help) about the real and actual problems facing the Indian communities at large.

You are all full of ****. The only person here I have ever seen be honest about it is Eco. He at leasts admits he doesnt care about Indians and merely posts because he doesnt like slurs. The rest of you? Its just another race rant.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

In another thread I pointed out that from my experience Natives are much more offended by Thanksgiving being a national holiday and what it represents to them but it was widely ignored. I wonder why.
 
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VanceMack said:
Lets start with the sheer dont give a ****edness of every person here that posts their outrage over the 'slur' and has never said word one (or has never done the first thing to help) about the real and actual problems facing the Indian communities at large.

You are all full of ****. The only person here I have ever seen be honest about it is Eco. He at leasts admits he doesnt care about Indians and merely posts because he doesnt like slurs. The rest of you? Its just another race rant.
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Who does? I mean seriously like you said what do some of these people who are so offended by it know about Native culture and their state of affairs?
 
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ecofarm said:
What? That sounds like a Stormfront rant.
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:lamo "stormfront" :lamo

So even you have become one of 'those guys' now. Your comment just made this whole thread a 'win'.

:lamo
 
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Deuce said:
This is a better question than the other poll.

If your answer is "no," you should ponder why not. And maybe even post why not in this thread.
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I can't think of a reason to call him/her that other than to out myself as a racist.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

VanceMack said:
:lamo "stormfront" :lamo

So even you have become one of 'those guys' now. Your comment just made this whole thread a 'win'.

:lamo
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Mad ranting.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

I understand the point of this thread, even if it doesn't really make sense to just randomly call someone redskin. It is basically asking if you'd use the term 'redskin' to describe a Native American while in the presence of a Native American. It's not faux outrage, it's a legitimate question. You can dance around it all you like.
 
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americanwoman said:
Who does? I mean seriously like you said what do some of these people who are so offended by it know about Native culture and their state of affairs?
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All you have to do is look at the OP. Its not about Indians...its really not about the perceived slur for that matter. Its about "the other guys". YOu can post numerous quotes and states from Indians stating the majority just dont care or in fact take pride in the name and support the Redskins in general...but since that doesnt play with their little 'yer a racist' attack they ignore facts and reality.
 
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VanceMack said:
All you have to do is look at the OP. Its not about Indians...its really not about the perceived slur for that matter. Its about "the other guys". YOu can post numerous quotes and states from Indians stating the majority just dont care or in fact take pride in the name and support the Redskins in general...but since that doesnt play with their little 'yer a racist' attack they ignore facts and reality.
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Ah, the burden of being white.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

VanceMack said:
All you have to do is look at the OP. Its not about Indians...its really not about the perceived slur for that matter. Its about "the other guys". YOu can post numerous quotes and states from Indians stating the majority just dont care or in fact take pride in the name and support the Redskins in general...but since that doesnt play with their little 'yer a racist' attack they ignore facts and reality.
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The sheer number of times "right wingers" are mentioned in this thread with disdain proves that this was a trap. And to Lizzie's point, how many of them really care about the Native Americans? They are a group who could use some help. Many of them are dirt poor. I wonder if the outraged ones send donations to them, or food and clothing? How many go to the local tribal communities and volunteer to be Big Brothers or Big Sisters?

This thread/poll was an epic failure.
 
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Amadeus said:
Ah, the burden of being white.
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Saweet...next to the stormfront comment thats another pathetic little diversion. You guys are on a roll...you can check that one off in the playbook. What else do you have? Certainly no rebuttal to the facts. Hell...do you even offer the pretense of caring about the actual people you are 'defending'or is it just another part of the 'shtick'?
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo "stormfront" :lamo
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Random rants about black crime...

Claiming others think cops are racist for arresting black criminals...


Yep. Typical racist apologism.
 
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ecofarm said:
Random rants about black crime...
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Pathetic diversions about poor oppressed black folks being kept down by da man and ignoring the fact that a vast majority of crimes committed in this country (and especially perpetrated AGAINST blacks) is committed BY a distinct minority...but...its not FAIR...
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

VanceMack said:
Saweet...next to the stormfront comment thats another pathetic little diversion. You guys are on a roll...you can check that one off in the playbook. What else do you have? Certainly no rebuttal to the facts. Hell...do you even offer the pretense of caring about the actual people you are 'defending'or is it just another part of the 'shtick'?
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Well, I do have Native Canadian ancestry. I don't generally get offended when people act like pricks, though. I have a thick skin.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

VanceMack said:
Pathetic diversions about poor oppressed black folks being kept down by da man and ignoring the fact that a vast majority of crimes committed in this country (and especially perpetrated AGAINST blacks) is committed BY a distinct minority...but...its not FAIR...
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More racist ranting.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

tres borrachos said:
The sheer number of times "right wingers" are mentioned in this thread with disdain proves that this was a trap. And to Lizzie's point, how many of them really care about the Native Americans? They are a group who could use some help. Many of them are dirt poor. I wonder if the outraged ones send donations to them, or food and clothing? How many go to the local tribal communities and volunteer to be Big Brothers or Big Sisters?

This thread/poll was an epic failure.
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What a phoney baloney response. As if telling people to have a little consideration for others requires donating and volunteering at the nearest reservation.
 
Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

Amadeus said:
Well, I do have Native Canadian ancestry. I don't generally get offended when people act like pricks, though. I have a thick skin.
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Ah...so you are a 1/32 thickskin. Is it 'red'?

Why should YOU be offended when the vast majority of THEM arent offended. And if you are really spun up on your Aboriginal Canadian ancestry you will know their preference for tribal declaration and the group declaration of First Nation or First people...not the insulting Native American. And you will probably understand their bigger concerns are healthcare, suicide, gangs, water rights, and the Canadian government defaulting on promised payouts and attempting to weaken council governments. I interviewed several chiefs up there but it has been well over a decade ago. Things may have changed I reckon. They may have gotten so good for them that they can afford the luxury of being offended by an NFL team nickname.

BTW...Ive got like 1/32 nd in there somewhere as well. More importantly...Im 5th gen 'Native American'. My grandkids are 7th Gen. Hell...we follow the Ward Churchill/Elizabeth Warren model and we can all be Indians just because we say so. I aint mad.
 
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