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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This is a better question than the other poll.

    If your answer is "no," you should ponder why not. And maybe even post why not in this thread.
    Depends greatly on the situation. If we're talking a complete strange, then most likely no, for a variety of reasons:

    1. I don't tend to walk up to people and call them by a racial classification, or address people based on a racial classification. ESPECIALLY people I don't know. I don't go walking down the street and see someone and go "Hey White Guy! What's up" or "How you doing black man"? Similarly, I'm not going to go up and say "Hello Redskin".

    2. I recognize that it can be viewed as offensive, and I also recognize as it's an anachronistic word at this point, so if for some crazy reason I was randomly deciding to identify someone I've never met by a racial category I would likely use the most benign and commonly accepted method since I'm DIRECTLY referring to them which heightens the chance to offend. This is much the same way I'd refer to a black individual I was addressing in a similar fashion by using "African American" even though I routinely use "black" instead of that, because I recognize that's generally viewed as the most benign and neutral term.

    3. Its a largely dated word in the current vernacular, and as such doesn't tend to come to mind in terms of racial classifications nearly as quickly or as naturally as something like native american or indian or american indian. It's similar to "colored" for a black person; it's dated, it's considered offensive by many to use it to describe a black person in the modern day, but it's still recognized in some cases as being used in a non-offensive manner today due to the context of those cases.

    Now if it's NOT a complete stranger, but rather a friend, it'd greatly depend on their personal feelings regarding it. If I know them to have no issue with the word and I needed to reference native americans I wouldn't have a huge issue using it, though likely wouldn't because once again it's rather dated as a method of referring to native americans in every day vernacular. Not out of any concious thought, but simply because saying "native american" or "indian" or "american indian" is simply what comes to mind and the tongue quicker. I associate words like "native americans" and "indians" with a race, I associate the word "redskin" with a football team, and thus when talking about the race my brian is FAR more likely to spit out one of the other terms 99.9% of the time. If they did personally have an issue with it's use I likely wouldn't use it around them, out of respect for a friend.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, I wouldn't call someone a Redskin to his face any more than I would call someone a Blackskin, Whiteskin, Yellow Skin, or Brownskin to his face. Why on Earth would anyone do that?

    I also wouldn't call someone Fatty, Shorty, Stinky, Blondie, Brunettey, Stupid, Lazy, Weakling, Smarty, Tall Boy, Pretty, Handsome, Bulky, Freckley or any other name. Maybe I was raised wrong. I was raised to call people by their names.

    What was the purpose of this thread?
    I don't think it was meant to address the situation where you where introduced to "Jeremy" and then you respond "hey, Redskin, nice to meet you". Do you really believe that is what the OP was referring to?
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    The old " its not racist because I have friends who are natives" ( one of them is also half black and in a wheelchair). Classic white person argument.
    lol, considering one of my friends is half native half Mexican and in a wheelchair. Yeah some things can be racist but what's a little racism between friends who aren't going to be offended? I have a very diverse group of friends and neighbors and if we all got offended everytime one of us said something playing around, we couldn't make it one day without a fight. But then again maybe it's just the white half of me that is arguing that.
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I don't think it was meant to address the situation where you where introduced to "Jeremy" and then you respond "hey, Redskin, nice to meet you". Do you really believe that is what the OP was referring to?
    No, I think the OP was ridiculous, as evidenced by my post. Most people wouldn't call someone a name that is a reflection on a physical attribute, unless there is some context to it, and you know the person. If my husband was Native American, would I call him Redskin to his face? Sure, if we were jokingly or otherwise calling each other names other than our real names. If he said "Hey Blondie" I may respond with "Yes Redskin?". My husband is very pale (I am very dark - aka "Black Irish" with blonde hair), and I often call him "Paleskin" or "Casper".

    Would I call a stranger "Redskin" to his face? No. Nor would I call a stranger any other name that is a reflection on his appearance.

    So it's a ridiculous question, unless it's directed at the people who tend to call strangers names that are commentaries on physical attributes. Except for kids, I don't know of too many people who are into name calling.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yup. If I am with my native friends and we are playing around, yeah I might throw it out there but I would never just say that to some randon person I don't even know.
    Again, context. The Redskin name, logo, image and team are treated with respect and admiration. Also asking for and gaining approval from the tribes almost a century ago.
    This is not Chief Wahoo we are talking about here.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ 2448 View Post
    Absolutely no. It is a slur.

    What if they're wearing a Redskin Cap ?

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    When you personally go get involved in their actual culture, become a part of their family, and have them identify you as one of them, just as I did, then you can feel free to come back and lecture me. Until then, you are speaking from the standpoint of ignorance.
    Oh please "Lizzie run's with horses" you speak for every Native American in America? You now feel confident that you could walk up to any Native American in America, call them redskin and you wouldn't get a few smacks in the mouth? Bull****.

    Like anything every person is different. My best friend is from Pakistani origin and often refers to himself as a Paki but he doesn't speak for all Pakistanis in the UK so it would not be correct for me to assume that I could also call others Paki. Also something many of you forget is that you don't have to be the target to find something offensive I am not Jewish but I am very offended my the word kike.
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    lol, considering one of my friends is half native half Mexican and in a wheelchair. Yeah some things can be racist but what's a little racism between friends who aren't going to be offended? I have a very diverse group of friends and neighbors and if we all got offended everytime one of us said something playing around, we couldn't make it one day without a fight. But then again maybe it's just the white half of me that is arguing that.
    I have a very diverse group of friends as well. And I never feel the need or desire to call them by anything other then their name.

    Why anyone else would feel the need to share a racist comment 'between friends' is beyond me.


    And I do not believe for one second that you mean nothing by it. The fact that calling them these things even occurs to you (when it NEVER does to me - and I have been high/drunk with many of them) strongly suggests that you hold these racist beliefs to at least some extent.
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No. But I might call them an Indian, which I think is also considered offensive.

    In other words, the reason I wouldn't call them "redskin" has nothing to do with political correctness and more because I just wouldn't. To me, a Redskin is someone in pads playing football in DC.
    Same here.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    lol, considering one of my friends is half native half Mexican and in a wheelchair. Yeah some things can be racist but what's a little racism between friends who aren't going to be offended? I have a very diverse group of friends and neighbors and if we all got offended everytime one of us said something playing around, we couldn't make it one day without a fight. But then again maybe it's just the white half of me that is arguing that.

    Between friends is fine as you all know where the line is however it's silly to then use that line with other people who you do not know and may react differently.
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