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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Quite frankly, the ones that I know want to be called by name, and known for their tribal group. There is an unbelievable amount of intertribal politics among NA's as a whole, even today.
    That is precisely correct. If you want to refer to their heritage, you should inquire about their tribe.

    Ive mentioned this before, but we had some people down from the Walk In Center do a presentation and Q and A for a group presentation in College. After the presentation, one of the young pink cheeked college students up front delicately danced and hemmed and hawed and finally said "I dont know what to call you." His response..."I like 'Joe'." He then went on to explain he was Navajo and not just Navajo but from a specific 'clan' (and I dont remember what his was). He personally found Native American insulting. Indians in this country grew up for centuries with the general label as 'Indian'. They are cool with it as long as people understand that Indian is like calling people 'white'. It really means nothing.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    not to his face and not to his back. It is a statement close to racist, the N-word for the native Americans.
    What is this 'N-word' you speak of?

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is this 'N-word' you speak of?
    "Native"??
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Most Indians cringe when you call them Native Americans.
    Untrue.
    Well, okay, delete the 'american' part. Most Natives I know cringe when called 'Indians'. And the ones I've worked with who lived on reservations that spanned the border didn't consider themselves American or Canadian, the called themselves Mohawk. I don't know how it is with Navaho or Apache or whoever but there's lots of Natives in the north who consider (rightly) that the term 'treaty' describes an agreement between nations.
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Do they even have Indians in the Netherlands?
    We have some native Americans from Surinam who are living in the Netherlands but not of the indian nations of North America.

    We did however have a trading relationship with the native Americans The Dutch and the Indians | Native American Netroots

    But we too have groups of people living in the Netherlands for which there are derogatory words that should not be said IMHO. That was my big problem with Theo van Gogh and also with Geert Wilders, they treat everybody in a group as one and Wilders has the tendency to denounce all of one group by the actions of a small minority of said group.
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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Reminds of a conversation I had in a lecture I took.

    One of the students was an African called Louise and the guy giving the lecture once referd to her as "Nigger". After which large parts of the students gasped in confusion, to which he simply replied

    "oh so you are shocked now? there is nothing bad about the word nigger! it has been arround for hundreds of years and isnt a swearword like asshole! I wont stop using it because someone in the EU says that I cant use it, so I will continue saying Nigger."

    To which I replied: "And why dont you simply call her Louise?"

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, actually I have done so, but I have a good many NA friends, and they know it isn't an insult coming from me, but that I am kidding with them.
    what she said.



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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Untrue.
    Well, okay, delete the 'american' part. Most Natives I know cringe when called 'Indians'. And the ones I've worked with who lived on reservations that spanned the border didn't consider themselves American or Canadian, the called themselves Mohawk. I don't know how it is with Navaho or Apache or whoever but there's lots of Natives in the north who consider (rightly) that the term 'treaty' describes an agreement between nations.
    Native American is a PC phrase and they know it. Native...OK. First people. Alright...especially in Canada, or just 'the people'.

    "Native American" is just soft white liberals telling them what they should be happy being called. By the same logic 'Indian' could be considered offensive, Native American is worse.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Sure, why not? They call me honkey/cracker/white boy/white man/white devil/Yankee/redneck/mick/Anglo/etc. Do I get butt hurt? Nope, I just return fire.
    Racial bigotry by a minority carries no societal implications for you. OF COURSE it's easy to ignore. It means nothing socially.

    But racial bigotry by the majority does carry threat. When a white expresses racial bigotry, it means a minority will suffer injustice (thus, it constitutes racism).


    It's terribly ignorant to presume racial bigotry against someone is the same for the majority as a minority.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is this 'N-word' you speak of?
    the R-word for native Americans is like the N-word for African Americans.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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