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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I'm sure you've made a lot of great friends this way!
    It's a good self-help book: "How to rage, play victim and win friends".

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think it was you but somebody posted the guys pic earlier which says it best. Fake cry me a fake river...

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    Wasn't that the guy in the commercials years back that were about pollution, and at the end, someone tossed a bag of garbage out a car window and it landed at his feet (which is when he cried)?

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Conspiracy theory and black crime spam. Figures.

    Next... crap about the Jewish media suppressing crimes by blacks and sensationalizing crimes by whites to further the secret race war?
    OH! Wait...you meant that other stuff...NOT the **** you were spewing. My bad...

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I do find it amusing that the right-wing always has to rush to the side of the argument that is most racially offensive. My opinion is that if you want to deliberately offend a group of people, have at it. Lets see how that business model plays out in the 21st century.
    I find it amusing that the left always has to make everything about left and right.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    A truly complex problem for the politically correct on both sides of the American political divide.

    Redskins: A derogatory and racist slur.
    Native-Americans: Oh, shut the "h" up! People are always dividing Americans. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American. I'm offended.
    Indians: How ignorant. in 1492 Columbus foolishly thought he's discovered a shortcut to India. We know better now. They're not Indians. Indians are from South Asia.
    And native americans are from central asia.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

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    Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face? [W:166]Vance and Eco...cut the basement level back and forth and the trolling. Stick to discussing the topic or action will be taken. Cease derailing this thread with your arguing

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wasn't that the guy in the commercials years back that were about pollution, and at the end, someone tossed a bag of garbage out a car window and it landed at his feet (which is when he cried)?
    Yeah. He was Italian, funny enough.

    The commercials were SO fricken ironic, considering the state of most Indian reservations. And if anyone studies even a little bit of history they will see most tribes werent all that concerned about conservation or the land (and to be fair...neither was anyone else). They used the land and resources until they were used up and then followed the hunt.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Where was he telling people what they should or shouldn't be offended by? He's asking WHY you should be offended by it.
    To me, it's a caricature of a Native American. It's like when Japanese were depicted with buck teeth and yellow skin in American media. That's MY reason. What's your personal stake in perpetuating racial stereotypes?

    Yes, a single instance
    I sense that a logical fallacy is coming.

    1. The only bounty documented actually using the word is from 1863...DECADES after the words first recorded use in general, in English, or in Print

    2. IF the bounty is actually referring to the "scalped head" with the use of "red-skin" there, then it's not actually using the term "redskin" (referring to native americans) but rather speaking in the literal notion of the "red" SKIN. As such, it would make this bounty NOT an instance of the term "redskin" being used as a slur to refer to native americans, but is an instance of a literal reference.
    And here it is (etymological fallacy). Regardless of how the word was used in the 1800s or 1950s, it is offensive to Native Americans now. It is offensive to non-Native Americans. That's the beginning and end of the argument.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    I don't believe offense matters. The question is: do racial slurs (or stereotypes as some would argue) harm society. The answer is yes. On this ground I support removing the name, not on grounds of offense.

    I find offense to be irrelevant.

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    Re: Would you call a Native American "redskin" to their face?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't believe offense matters. The question is: do racial slurs (or stereotypes as some would argue) harm society. The answer is yes. On this ground I support removing the name, not on grounds of offense.

    I find offense to be irrelevant.
    Racial slurs harm society because they promote bigotry and are inherently divisive. I find that offensive, personally, but I agree that no one has a right to not be offended.


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