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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Not sure that that's the right measure. Just read Dave Soucie's book "Why Planes Crash." He's a former FAA Accident Investigator and he claims that the FAA does a horrible job because

    a) they have a dual mandate to regulate and promote aviation, those mandates are largely mutually exclusive and the FAA errs too much on the side of promoting aviation and,



    b) both the FAA and NTSB do not go deep enough into crash analysis to identified systemic problems that are at the heart of all aviation accidents.
    Disagreement to how a organization is ran does not equate to non efficient. Overall the FAA is a efficient agency because it accomplishses its major goals.


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There will be a tax rate in which everyone pays that goes to providing water services.


    The federal government


    Through a state enterprise.
    So, the labor of others. Got it. You are advocating the theft (removal, redistribution, reallocation) of the labor of people in favor of others, irrespective of the labor input of the individual.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    So, the labor of others. Got it. You are advocating the theft (removal, redistribution, reallocation) of the labor of people in favor of others, irrespective of the labor input of the individual.
    Taxation=theft? This argument? How is it "in favor of others" when its applied to everyone?


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The state can guarantee it is provided to all households. Something can be provided to you and still be considered a right.
    The more time I post on this forum the more I'm convinced that Herbert Spencer was right when he said socialism always involves slavery. Services can not be human rights for the very reason that they call for the labor and resources of others to be provided. It doesn't matter if government is providing the service or if a private individual is providing it because the fact remains it takes the labor and resources of others to be provided.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Gov't bailouts are hardly an example of a capitalist system but when huge parts of the economy fail something has to be done. Do you suggest people go without water if they can't afford it but banks, auto and insurance companies be given billions upon billions?
    Absolutely not!

    Municipal systems are necessary for certain functions but they shouldn't be confused with capitalist activities.

    As far as bailouts and "too big to fail", that's just bull****. Better to let a diseased entity that either can't be fixed or refuses to be fixed die. Their carcass serves as food for new and, hopefully, more sustainable entities.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The more time I post on this forum the more I'm convinced that Herbert Spencer was right when he said socialism always involves slavery. Services can not be human rights for the very reason that they call for the labor and resources of others to be provided. It doesn't matter if government is providing the service or if a private individual is providing it because the fact remains it takes the labor and resources of others to be provided.
    So taxation is slavery then?


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The Marines
    The Army
    The Navy
    The Air Force
    NASA
    NOAA

    Your move.
    Exactly how many military spending scandals have there been? If you consider those agencies efficient, please don't ever try to run a business.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So taxation is slavery then?
    Most of the time.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Disagreement to how a organization is ran does not equate to non efficient. Overall the FAA is a efficient agency because it accomplishses its major goals.
    Perhaps you should look up the word efficient before you continue.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The state
    But someone is paying money to the state for that.

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