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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually it is. Founded both in Universal Deceleration of Human Rights, and in the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights
    Which are not law in the USA.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You can still have a "right" and have it be provided by the state. Natural rights are natural in the sense of human nature. Human rights are the construct of men and the state provides these to all citizens equally.
    So you would have no problem with the state giving everyone a gun then?

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Well we have a ****load of it, is that better? The hair splitting distinctions are getting annoying, clownboy.
    Well then don't set yourself up for them. Europe has plenty of water.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So you would have no problem with the state giving everyone a gun then?
    Didnt know it was a human right to own a gun?


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You can still have a "right" and have it be provided by the state. Natural rights are natural in the sense of human nature. Human rights are the construct of men and the state provides these to all citizens equally.
    There is a distinction between political/civil rights (also referred to as negative rights) versus social and economic rights (also referred to as positive rights). Do you understand this distinction?

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Which are not law in the USA.
    Your right its not. Its the foundation of international human rights law


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    There is a distinction between political/civil rights (also referred to as negative rights) versus social and economic rights (also referred to as positive rights). Do you understand this distinction?
    Yes. Whats your point?


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your right its not. Its the foundation of international human rights law
    No, it's not. It originally was a definition document for the UN at it's creation, to universally define the terms used by UN documents. Thanks to Eleanor Roosevelt the unelected and illegitimate stand in president of the US. It has since been used, much like the UN itself, as something it's not nor never was intended to be.

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    Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes. Whats your point?
    It seemed you were having trouble understanding the difference others have pointed out in this thread. "Human rights" doesn't delineate anything.

    Concerning rights to water, a negative right would be upheld by laws acknowledging others cannot take water you rightfully came to possess. A positive right could only be upheld if some external entity were obligated to ensure you possess sufficient water and, if you don't, to then provide water to you, essentially free of charge (to you).

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your right its not. Its the foundation of international human rights law
    Don't care what the else world think are rights. I only what rights are in America.

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