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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?

    It’s a basic human right: water. But could the United Nations soon help the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department provide the service to struggling customers?

    And while Garner says water is “a God-given right,” she says there is a cost to move water from the water resource to the customer and that the infrastructure costs money.
    Nearly Half Of Detroit Water Customers Can’t Pay Their Bill CBS Detroit
    Collecting water from public places or from the rain should be considered a right. However you do not have the right to force someone else to employ filtration and purification methods on that water and/or deliver it to your cup without just compensation.

    For what it's worth, the water running through my house is collected from a stream running through my property into my cistern. I had to buy the tubing, the cistern, the plumbing components, the water pump, and the filter with my own money. I also buy the electricity that runs the water pump. I do not have a right to be furnished with potable water. I have a right to gather it from my rooftops or that stream running through my property. What I do with it beyond that is my business and responsibility.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You can install a well or some sort of tank that holds large qunaitites of water or rent from a well.


    Uhhh.. You do realize many non-socialists hold this same idea right? Its not strictly a socialist idea.


    What about it.
    What? Equal cost / equal misery? On the market spectrum, that's definitely to one side, and it's not the free market side.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?
    Oh stop trying to socialize everything. Utilities cost something to disperse, the recipients should pay that bill. Now go away.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Subsistence is a birthright as far as I am concerned.
    Oh sure, as long as you working in the field to provide MY subsistence is my birthright.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?





    Nearly Half Of Detroit Water Customers Can’t Pay Their Bill CBS Detroit
    While I realize it may be impractical or impossible to implement, I'd be ok with making drinking water a fundamental human right. For other uses however it should probably cost, otherwise people will just waste it because they don't have to pay for it.

    For all the nay-sayers, we spend TRILLIONS of dollars on ridiculous wars and give BILLIONS of dollars to foreign countries as aid, yet we can't afford the measly sum it would cost to subsidize drinking water?
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What? Equal cost / equal misery? On the market spectrum, that's definitely to one side, and it's not the free market side.
    Not everything in this country is revolved around the free market.


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Of course we should pay for water, delivering safe clean water is not cheap.
    Funny - I think the same but I don't depend on someone else to deliver safe clean water. I paid for a well to be dug, I paid for a pump to be installed, I paid for a water softener to be installed, I pay for the salt conditioning materials, I also pay for a 5 way reverse osmosis system to filter the water that I drink, and pay for water testing every 2 years.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?

    Nearly Half Of Detroit Water Customers Can’t Pay Their Bill CBS Detroit
    Yes we should pay for water, but we should expect those we pay to furnish it to do it with the highest level of competence, efficiency, and economy possible. Public water systems are a component of the social contract just as are shared roads, police and fire protection, electric grids, sewer systems, public schools, and other services that it makes sense to do together rather than each person providing his/her own private system.

    Nobody can provide it for himself/herself without cost, and everybody should also pay his/her share of the public costs.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Of course we should pay for water, delivering safe clean water is not cheap.



    Getting rid of water isn't cheap either.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?

    Nearly Half Of Detroit Water Customers Cant Pay Their Bill CBS Detroit
    And when "the government" pays, who do you think pays?

    Everyone but you??

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