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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Take for instance not only the rainwater but aquafiers. Some places have demanded residents to fill their wells and link up to the main and pay for water. That company has no more right to that aquafier than the individuals sinking there wells but the coercive force of government actively denies them of what they've procured for themselves.
    Fully agree.
    You can never be safe from a government that can keep you completely safe from each other and the world. You must choose.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Rightly understood?

    By who's standards?



    Not!
    By reason.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    I'd rather not pay for water.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I am not saying what the law is, but rather what the law ought to be. Subsistence is a birthright as far as I am concerned.
    So you think it is your birthright to take the labor of others just because you need it to survive. Does that go for food to. Should farmers have to give you a portion of the food they grow because it is your birthright. What about heat in the winter. In some places you will die without heat. Should you get free electricity when ever it gets really cold. What about if your furnace breaks. You will freeze to death without it. Should someone have to food it for free for you. I mean subsistence is your birthright.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I'd rather not pay for water.
    I'd rather not pay for anything. Somebody has to clean our water, no? I certainly don't want to go through that hassle.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    So you think it is your birthright to take the labor of others just because you need it to survive. Does that go for food to. Should farmers have to give you a portion of the food they grow because it is your birthright. What about heat in the winter. In some places you will die without heat. Should you get free electricity when ever it gets really cold. What about if your furnace breaks. You will freeze to death without it. Should someone have to food it for free for you. I mean subsistence is your birthright.
    Reading comprehension is your friend. I stated, quite clearly, that we don't have the right to have water delivered to our us. Logically, if we don't have a right to have water delivered to us, then we don't have a right to someone else's labor. This should be doubly clear when you see where I said we have a right to a subsistence amount of the water that falls from the sky. So, taken all together: We have a right to it, but we have to use our own labor to collect it. Jeez.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    some sort of independent commission should decide this.


    Could be written off.


    What about them?


    They could buy access to a well.
    Yes, wells are everywhere in big cities.

    This is the problem with socialists: when you actually start asking questions and looking at simple scenarios, reality goes right out the window. There has never been a committee or five year plan that has been able to properly support a populace long-term. But you know what have given the greatest good to the greatest amount of people, repeatedly, throughout history since its inception?

    The market.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Yes, wells are everywhere in big cities.
    You can install a well or some sort of tank that holds large qunaitites of water or rent from a well.

    This is the problem with socialists: when you actually start asking questions and looking at simple scenarios, reality goes right out the window. There has never been a committee or five year plan that has been able to properly support a populace long-term. But you know what have given the greatest good to the greatest amount of people, repeatedly, throughout history since its inception?
    Uhhh.. You do realize many non-socialists hold this same idea right? Its not strictly a socialist idea.

    The market.
    What about it.


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?
    That's a service.

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    Re: It is government that torments us. Government is broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Get a grip. What is broken is government. Nearly every ill flows from government that has lost its way. We have a Constitution to limit the interference of government in our lives and in our affairs. Too many of us are eager to throw away our individual rights, our freedoms, our liberty, as long as someone in government promises to plunder our neighbors to give us a few undeserved crumbs.

    It is time to fix our broken government.
    It is time to amend the Constitution in ways that will compel the Federal vermin to comply with the Constitution.
    I don't think amending the Constitution is needed. I'll admit that I'm knee-jerk leery of these because I remember the ERA "discussion," which is now being replayed over gays/LGBTs.

    It does seem to me that that our individual rights and freedoms are eroding because they don't seem to matter much to so many. I know so few people who even pay attention, much less participate, in local affairs because they can't be bothered. They just don't care. They're disengaged.

    And I'm talking about the people who earn livings, not about the 20-somethings who've looked me straight in the face when I've suggested job ideas and said, "But I don't like to work."

    When did not working when you're able-bodied become an option? One of my young relatives by marriage (but not for much longer) is only 22 and will not work. He's decided that his "anxieties" and "anger management issues" qualify him for SS disability, and he has applied.

    I think in some ways the federal government is "broken." But in some ways, we, the people, are increasingly broken ourselves.

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