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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Because I've dealt with them. Even flew missions to cover areas when their systems failed.
    Everything fails at some areas. It doesnt mean its not efficient.


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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Detroit should just pay everyones water bill with their extensive budget.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?





    Nearly Half Of Detroit Water Customers Cant Pay Their Bill CBS Detroit
    water is a God-given right,

    It is?

    I read the article. $75 a month for water? That's what we pay here in my house in NH when we run the sprinklers. Normally it's about $50 a month.

    $75 a month equates to about $2.50 a day. Is that unmanageable for half of the residents of Detroit? There isn't a lot in this article to help me understand what's going on or why, or where the 50% who can't come up with $2.50 a day are spending that money.

    I disagree that it's a right, God-given or otherwise. If they are looking for charity in Detroit, say it (them, not you). I think the reasons detailed in the article, which vary from God to Wall Street to oil companies, kind of indicated nothing but bitchfesting, unless someone can explain to me how Wall Street or the oil companies impact a Detroit resident's inability to come up with $2.50 a day.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Geez, dude, you too please stop the defensiveness. Just state your case already.
    I have, your misreading and responses show you clearly have not. I was quite clear, your cost plus idea is already the case with municipal water districts right now. They are non-profit entities designed to serve the people of their communities.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    The question is in my view more properly, is water use part of the commons, like public education/roads/police, that should be provided to all citizens through taxes, therefore meaning the poor who pay no taxes effectively get the service for 'free.'

    I answered no because there is a good reason to attach a cost to the use of water - the per unit cost encourages conservation and discourages waste. Furthermore, there are many options that solve the problem of access to water by the truly indigent - transfer payments (welfare and the like), direct subsidies for water bills, solving water problems for the poor is well within the reach of much private charity etc. One option might be to provide a 'subsistence' level of water use for no or very low cost, and then market rates above that but it's easy to identify practical problems with this as well.

    So, yes, charge for water, and take care of the indigent through other means.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Every public utility in the US, water included, has state and federal programs for the indigent. I suggest you read your water bill.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
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    Your move.
    If you honestly think the military is efficient than you have no idea what you are talking about. The military as a whole wastes more time,money and resources than you can imagine. Let me guess you have never been in the military have you

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Is the supplying of water a basic human right?

    If you consider all the things the gov't spends our money on (defense, roads, bridges, justice system etc), should one of them be a simple necessity?





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    Water is going to cost you money no matter how you get it. Dig a well. That will set you back about 8 grand. A water system has to be maintained and it takes money to maintain and run a water system. Of all the people on here, I think I may have the most appreciation for this because our 'community well' (water system) is old and falling apart. The operator is trying to get a grant to replace it with all new equipment, but in the mean time we have very sketchy service. I would dig a well, but I am located downhill from a cemetery and I really don't want to drink graveyard water.
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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Water is my cheapest bill. About $40 every two months.



    I'mma say, in a sense Yes, having access to potable water is a basic human right, since you're dead in 3 days without it.

    But if your income (from whatever source) is above the poverty line, you should be able to pay for reasonable water use.

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    Re: Should we pay for water?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    If you honestly think the military is efficient than you have no idea what you are talking about. The military as a whole wastes more time,money and resources than you can imagine. Let me guess you have never been in the military have you
    That's anti-American.
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