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Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichotomy?

Why doesn't America ever acknowledge Mestizos, continue to push WhiteBlack dichotomy?

  • It's nationally advantageous for the dominant US socioracial factions.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • The US is obsessed with the idea of a "white" and "black" national mindset.

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Mestizos haven't the sociopolitical clout of black America is all.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Mestizos prefer to be labeled white rather than Mestizo.

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Mestizos are culturally, politically "co-opted" by powerful socioracial factions into silence.

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
    9
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

I think human beings have to be looked at differently from animals. For example, you wouldn't slaughter human beings and eat them, but you can enjoy a cheeseburger guilt-free.

To equate humans with animals is a psychological disorder.

I am equating them biologically as a species... I am not doing what you seem to think... trying to compare them to us. I wouldn't compare a chipmunk to a Chimp either other than to say they are both animals.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Also, "negro" is not a race. It's an offensive and antiquated term.

I thought I typed in negroid. Do you have a problem with that scientific term?
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

It should be noted that although there is still some racism and race-based classism in Latin America countries, they do not have the intense obsession with race seen in the USA. That is because the USA is fairly unique with its fairly recent history of laws making someone a second-rate citizen because they are partially non-white.

"The one-drop rule is a historical colloquial term in the United States for the social classification as Negro of individuals with any African ancestry; meaning any person with "one drop of Negro blood" was considered black. The principle of "invisible blackness" was an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status.[1]...

The one-drop rule was not adopted as law until the 20th century: first in Tennessee in 1910 and in Virginia under the Racial Integrity Act of 1924 (following the passage of similar laws in several other states)....

In the United States, European Americans usually classified people of partial American Indian descent as Indian, in a similar example of hypodescent. In the early years of these types of unions and marriages, the fathers were usually white and the mothers Indian...

Whites also applied this rule to mixed-race descendants of Native American and African ethnicity, classifying them as African. In this they ignored how people identified themselves; many Native American tribes reared children of mixed race as culturally within their tribe. This distinction was critical as Native American slavery had ended during the colonial years, and a child of a Native American mother should not be enslaved...

Among the colonial slave societies, the United States was nearly unique in developing the one-drop rule; it derived both from the Southern slave culture (shared by other societies) and the aftermath of the American Civil War, emancipation of slaves, and Reconstruction....

In colonial Spanish America, many soldiers and explorers took indigenous women as wives. Native-born Spanish women were always a minority. The colonists developed an elaborate classification and caste system that identified the mixed-race descendants of blacks, Amerindians, and whites by different names, related to appearance and known ancestry. Racial caste not only depended on ancestry or skin color, but also could be raised or lowered by the person's financial status or class....

...racial culture shock has come to hundreds of thousands of dark-skinned immigrants to the United States from Brazil, Colombia, Panama, and other Latin American nations. Although many are not considered black in their homelands, they have often been considered black in US society."

One-drop rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

It is true in the United States that we tend to think of black and white as the two most important races in our dialogue, and the others are usually an afterthought. This is unsurprising considering our national history. But the last thing we need is to keep dividing people. There is still an awful lot of mending to do, especially when it comes to the economic hardships faced by a few races, and so we cannot ignore race completely. But trying to determine how much of one race someone is and how much of another? That gets us nowhere, and sounds a lot like racial purity tests from previous centuries.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Mestizo is just a term for someone of mixed European and native American ancestry. It is the term used in Mexico, where most of the mestizos in the US came from.

Of course, Mexico also has blacks, black and white mixed race people, black and Asian, Europeans from a variety of nations, so "Mexican" is not a race either, and neither is "Hispanic."

And we don't need another racial or ethnic term. We are Americans. All of the citizens of this great land are Americans, regardless of where their ancestors came from. It's time we quit labeling people according to their perceived race/ethnicity/culture/ancestry.

Well, in that case, I am Mestizo, since my great great great great great great grandmother was native American. Married a French Huguenot man.

This probably makes me eligible for that 'La Raza' movement, too. Ya'll get outta my country :)
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

I thought I typed in negroid. Do you have a problem with that scientific term?

Am I supposed to read your mind? You typed "negro." So now you're backtracking.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Am I supposed to read your mind? You typed "negro." So now you're backtracking.

OMG... do you think that humans are animals or not? No qualifications. Just answer the question. :roll:
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Well, in that case, I am Mestizo, since my great great great great great great grandmother was native American. Married a French Huguenot man.

This probably makes me eligible for that 'La Raza' movement, too. Ya'll get outta my country :)

And I was born in the USA, which makes me a native American. Moreover, anthropologists tell us that the human race evolved in Africa, and I'm human, so I'm also African. That makes me a Native African American.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

I thought nazi believed in one race being superior over others?

Australians were no different.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

You talk about people as if they're dogs or horses.... "mating"..... lmao.

Get out of here.

Tell it to Margaret Sanger.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot



America has more Mestizos than African Americans now yet one would never know this through American media. You will never hear the word Mestizo in the US. Ever. This is even more odd when you start to realize that A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics found that the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree, counting the Mexican population of the US.

Why is this? Why do we constantly read about black and white America in our media but never mestizo America?



In this country at one time, there were three racial categories listed on the census, white, black and mulatto. Mulatto covered any mixed race person whether they were Indian and white, black and white or a combination of all three, Mestizo is not an American term, but was used by the Spaniards to define mostly Indian/Spanish mixed people, The Canadians use Metis which is recognized by the government as mixed native american and French ancestry..







Is this intentional? Is this cultural? Is this sociocultural conspiracy? The media? Is this lack of care about said Mestizo population compared to the black, white populations? Is this simply that Mestizos are thrown into a black, white categorization based on their skin color and that's why? Do Americans just not focus on Mestizos enough to care to even acknowledge their existence? Is it simply that Mestizos haven't built up the clout yet of black America




The category of Mulatto was eventually eliminated, and all mulattos became black........
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

OMG... do you think that humans are animals or not? No qualifications. Just answer the question. :roll:

I did answer in a perfectly cogent manner. Sorry your "gotcha" question didn't have quite the kick you'd hoped.

Dehumanization is something we need to stay vigilant against.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

I did answer in a perfectly cogent manner. Sorry your "gotcha" question didn't have quite the kick you'd hoped.

Dehumanization is something we need to stay vigilant against.

No you didn't. ...and no need to "gotchya" either. You got yourself. I asked if you thought humans were animals and you countered that comparing them to dogs is dehumanizing. Nice try though... :roll:
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

No idea who that is.

Founder of Planned Parenthood and a dedicated eugenicist like Hitler. It was all the rage. The Aussies were going at it hard for a while too. Some say it continues there.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

No you didn't. ...and no need to "gotchya" either. You got yourself. I asked if you thought humans were animals and you countered that comparing them to dogs is dehumanizing. Nice try though... :roll:

Which it is. Would you like to be treated like a dog?
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Founder of Planned Parenthood and a dedicated eugenicist like Hitler. It was all the rage. The Aussies were going at it hard for a while too. Some say it continues there.

Nothing could be more disgusting or as offensive to natural law than eugenics of any sort.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

That's true, Hispanic is not associated with Caucasian or white. Although it is not a race, for official stats to include the Census we treat it like one. I can see where there would be a bunch of confusion. I had never heard of a Mestizo, so I really appreciate the info.

Here is another example most Americans do not always understand.

From the crowd and the singer, you might think this is in Europe.

No.

This concert is in Brazil. Many of these are obviously Euros.

 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Here is another example most Americans do not always understand.

From the crowd and the singer, you might think this is in Europe.

No.

This concert is in Brazil. Many of these are obviously Euros.



The video was disabled by the owner it said. But I have no doubt Europeans make up a large portion of Brazil population. I have been to several countries while in the army and have seen how night clubs cater to certain groups, foreign nationals or even foreigners who have moved to that country, either retired in a foreign country or went to work in the foreign country. In today's age, that is very common.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

The video was disabled by the owner it said. But I have no doubt Europeans make up a large portion of Brazil population. I have been to several countries while in the army and have seen how night clubs cater to certain groups, foreign nationals or even foreigners who have moved to that country, either retired in a foreign country or went to work in the foreign country. In today's age, that is very common.


lol just go to link
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Didnt vote.

Also didnt realize we needed anymore labels.
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

Didnt vote.

Also didnt realize we needed anymore labels.


It's okay. We're big kids here. We can handle labels I think. Get ready the recess bell is about to ring!
 
Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

It's okay. We're big kids here. We can handle labels I think. Get ready the recess bell is about to ring!

I think I might be a little confused but are you saying we need to add a new race to define what people describe themselves as hispanic? If I remember from when I did my census there was the race (white, black, asian, etc) then another additional question asked if I was also hispanic. So are you saying instead of me identifying as white hispanic or whatever there should be another race box, which you call Mestizo? I think it is rather confusing for some, like for me I am a white hispanic but my husband is not white but he is not black or asian either. He does not have anglo features at all yet he would probably be put into the white category as well which doesn't really make sense.
 
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