View Poll Results: Why doesn't America ever acknowledge Mestizos, continue to push WhiteBlack dichotomy?

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  • It's nationally advantageous for the dominant US socioracial factions.

    1 8.33%
  • The US is obsessed with the idea of a "white" and "black" national mindset.

    6 50.00%
  • Mestizos haven't the sociopolitical clout of black America is all.

    1 8.33%
  • Mestizos prefer to be labeled white rather than Mestizo.

    3 25.00%
  • Mestizos are culturally, politically "co-opted" by powerful socioracial factions into silence.

    2 16.67%
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Thread: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichotomy?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    they ARE WHITE.
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    I'm sorry but how is this latin white?

    or this one?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post


    America has more Mestizos than African Americans now yet one would never know this through American media. You will never hear the word Mestizo in the US. Ever. This is even more odd when you start to realize that A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics found that the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree, counting the Mexican population of the US.

    Why is this? Why do we constantly read about black and white America in our media but never mestizo America?

    Is this intentional? Is this cultural? Is this sociocultural conspiracy? The media? Is this lack of care about said Mestizo population compared to the black, white populations? Is this simply that Mestizos are thrown into a black, white categorization based on their skin color and that's why? Do Americans just not focus on Mestizos enough to care to even acknowledge their existence? Is it simply that Mestizos haven't built up the clout yet of black America?

    I find this "erasing" of Mestizos from all facets of American conscious fascinating either way. I mean really, you never hear "A Mestizo man, a black man and a white man were arrested today." Why not?




    This video is a very poor argument. They are called Mexicans or Hispanic. I hear those terms all the time and if the census, or whatever that video is about doesn't use those terms, then it means that it is not reflective of the way that society actually is.
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Mestizo race simply indicates a person is mixed race.

    I don't think you understand the difference between race and nationality and or cultural heritage. Cultural heritage and nationality are political and cultural things, they are not actual biological constructs such as being of the European, Amerindian or Chinese race or mixed between two races (such as Mestizo).

    White also means nothing. You're either European, mixed race, Amerindian and or another race or mix of races. "White" is merely a skin complexion, not a race.
    Caucasian is a race, and Latin Americans are overwhelmingly caucasian.

    Mestizo is not a race, anymore than mulatto is a race.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Mestizo race simply indicates a person is mixed race.

    I don't think you understand the difference between race and nationality and or cultural heritage. Cultural heritage and nationality are political and cultural things, they are not actual biological constructs such as being of the European, Amerindian or Chinese race or mixed between two races (such as Mestizo).

    White also means nothing. You're either European, mixed race, Amerindian and or another race or mix of races. "White" is merely a skin complexion, not a race.
    That makes the video even worse of an argument. The guy is trying to show that Hispanics don't have a race listed when one of the races listed, according to you (white), isn't even a race?
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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
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    I'm sorry but how is this latin white?
    She's hot, I don't care what race she is.

    And no, she's black. But most Latin Americans are white.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Caucasian is a race, and Latin Americans are overwhelmingly caucasian.

    Mestizo is not a race, anymore than mulatto is a race.

    Again I think you're mixed up maybe about the thread.

    Most of the Central Americans in the US are not Caucasians but are mixed race mestizos, mixed with both Amerindian and European and sometimes African. So they are not Caucasians as you claim.

    No Mestizo is not a race, it's a mix of races. That stated, Mestizo is an accurate racial label over "Hispanic" which tells you nothing about a persons racial heritage.


    Answering "I'm Hispanic" tells us nothing about your ancestors because:


    A 100% African person, a 100% Chinese person can be "Hispanic". Hispanic is not a race. It is a culture just as Christianity is a religion. Hispanic does not really tell us anything about you other than you perhaps eat tacos, which obviously isn't very telling about you.

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    She's hot, I don't care what race she is.

    And no, she's black. But most Latin Americans are white.
    I agree that she's hot. However, most Latin Americans are not castillian (white), but native Indians (brown).

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Again I think you're mixed up maybe about the thread.

    Most of the Central Americans in the US are not Caucasians but are mixed race mestizos, mixed with both Amerindian and European and sometimes African. So they are not Caucasians as you claim.

    No Mestizo is not a race, it's a mix of races. That stated, Mestizo is an accurate racial label over "Hispanic" which tells you nothing about a persons racial heritage.


    Answering "I'm Hispanic" tells us nothing about your ancestors because:


    A 100% African person, a 100% Chinese person can be "Hispanic". Hispanic is not a race. It is a culture just as Christianity is a religion. Hispanic does not really tell us anything about you other than you perhaps eat tacos, which obviously isn't very telling about you.
    So do you want to put "mulatto" back on the census questionnaire?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That makes the video even worse of an argument. The guy is trying to show that Hispanics don't have a race listed when one of the races listed, according to you (white), isn't even a race?
    The guy in the video is entirely accurate. All he's trying to show is that the people he's asking about which race they are are actually majority Amerindian race and or Mestizo, not white or Caucasian as some of you would claim.


    However due to American cultural influence they are instead choosing white or Hispanic, both of which are not races.


    No, white is not a race (holy god I have to say that lol?). European is a race in general terms. White is a complexion. An Arab can be white but not European, and a European white but not Arab. You understand?

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    Re: Will America ever acknowledge Mestizos or continue to push the White/Black dichot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So do you want to put "mulatto" back on the census questionnaire?

    Doesn't mulatto mean 'half-breed'? What's wrong with the simple term Mixed race. Why can't that be added to the census?
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